Help me pick an inline....
07-19-2008 | 07:35 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Help me pick an inline....
ORIGINAL: BUTCHER45
Well I realized that for the price of an ROA I could get a nice inline muzzleloader and be on my way to putting a nice scope on it. I think I'll do that first
I know diddly-squat about muzzleloaders.
I have been looking at the Triumph and like the idea of it's Weatherguard as I live in Oregon (rain) however I am hearing initial doubts on it's effectiveness. The Triumph doesn't appear to be offered with a SS barrel. I also hear that water can pool up where the primer is?
I have also been looking at this one here, and would like to hear some feedback on it. Particularly if I am losing anything worth speaking of going with the shorter 24 inch barrel.
http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=R70103501
I'll probably pick one of these up down the road, as it complies with Oregon's strict muzzleloader season regulations. The other gun would be set-up with a scope, and used year around.
http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=R74103150
Well I realized that for the price of an ROA I could get a nice inline muzzleloader and be on my way to putting a nice scope on it. I think I'll do that first
I know diddly-squat about muzzleloaders.
I have been looking at the Triumph and like the idea of it's Weatherguard as I live in Oregon (rain) however I am hearing initial doubts on it's effectiveness. The Triumph doesn't appear to be offered with a SS barrel. I also hear that water can pool up where the primer is?
I have also been looking at this one here, and would like to hear some feedback on it. Particularly if I am losing anything worth speaking of going with the shorter 24 inch barrel.
http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=R70103501
I'll probably pick one of these up down the road, as it complies with Oregon's strict muzzleloader season regulations. The other gun would be set-up with a scope, and used year around.
http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=R74103150
Chap Gleason
07-19-2008 | 11:01 PM
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RE: Help me pick an inline....
Omega is not an open breech muzzle loader.
Oregon does have that rule about the exposed breech so the traditions Western would be a good choice for break open, Plus a lot of older Bolt action muzzys and of course traditional sidelock and flintlock.
Omega is "sealed" from the nasty outdoor elements,
Not oregon legal!
Winchester X-150 bolt action. Open and exposed to the elements, It is also capable of using #11, Musket and 209 ignition,
90g pyrodex RS, 385 GP conical, open sights @ 100 yards. #2-3 are touching.
Oregon does have that rule about the exposed breech so the traditions Western would be a good choice for break open, Plus a lot of older Bolt action muzzys and of course traditional sidelock and flintlock.
Omega is "sealed" from the nasty outdoor elements,
Not oregon legal!
Winchester X-150 bolt action. Open and exposed to the elements, It is also capable of using #11, Musket and 209 ignition,
90g pyrodex RS, 385 GP conical, open sights @ 100 yards. #2-3 are touching.
07-19-2008 | 11:41 PM
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Typical Buck
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RE: Help me pick an inline....
I thought that the Pursuit has a sealed breech too.
Once the action is closed, it's considered sealed from
the elementsif you can't see the primer.
The Pursuit is a very nice rifle too, but see what
ChuckHawk's says about it being sealed:
The breech snaps shut smartly without "wobble" or misalignment
in the mechanism. There is virtually no contamination from the
spent primer to the breech system. And not one bit of the dreaded
"blow black," I might add.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/traditions_pursuit.htm
Here'stheexposed breechedPedersoli Brutus & Ovationrifles for
you to consider. Click on the pictures twice to make them larger.
http://www.cherrys.com/ped_inlines.htm
Once the action is closed, it's considered sealed from
the elementsif you can't see the primer.
The Pursuit is a very nice rifle too, but see what
ChuckHawk's says about it being sealed:
The breech snaps shut smartly without "wobble" or misalignment
in the mechanism. There is virtually no contamination from the
spent primer to the breech system. And not one bit of the dreaded
"blow black," I might add.
Here'stheexposed breechedPedersoli Brutus & Ovationrifles for
you to consider. Click on the pictures twice to make them larger.
http://www.cherrys.com/ped_inlines.htm
07-19-2008 | 11:44 PM
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RE: Help me pick an inline....
yes the pursuit/accura/omega/enore/ must i keep going?lol All are closed breech muzzys.
The traditions Western has some material removed so its exposed on the sides to meet laws in certain states such as oregon and i believe washington?
The traditions Western has some material removed so its exposed on the sides to meet laws in certain states such as oregon and i believe washington?
07-20-2008 | 12:02 AM
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Typical Buck
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RE: Help me pick an inline....
I didn't realize that the Western had cuts in the breech
since it's not statedin the Traditions write up.
It does state:
If it's legal in Oregon, then buy it!
since it's not statedin the Traditions write up.
It does state:
Uses #11 cap for states that require it!
The break-open action also provides you with a super tight seal
allowing a positive primer ignition even in foul weather.
The break-open action also provides you with a super tight seal
allowing a positive primer ignition even in foul weather.
If it's legal in Oregon, then buy it!
07-21-2008 | 12:17 PM
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RE: Help me pick an inline....
ORIGINAL: arcticap
I didn't realize that the Western had cuts in the breech
since it's not statedin the Traditions write up.
It does state:
If it's legal in Oregon, then buy it!
I didn't realize that the Western had cuts in the breech
since it's not statedin the Traditions write up.
It does state:
Uses #11 cap for states that require it!
The break-open action also provides you with a super tight seal
allowing a positive primer ignition even in foul weather.
The break-open action also provides you with a super tight seal
allowing a positive primer ignition even in foul weather.
If it's legal in Oregon, then buy it!
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I am leaning towards getting the Pursuit Western as it is the first break-open inline legal for Oregon and Washington says Joe at The Gun Works. That will extend my hunting opportunities dramatically, and I can throw a scope on it for the regular seasons until I get a second muzzleloader for general use.
I am going to go down to the gunworks soon and check one out.
What is it like cleaning nickel as opposed to stainless steel?
http://www.thegunworks.com/custprodgun.cfm?ProductID=2546&do=detail&C at2Option=yes
07-21-2008 | 01:45 PM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Help me pick an inline....
My Staghorn Magnumis nickel and after years of cleaning it is not real pretty. Some stains and small dots for some reason. Must be the solvent I use. Now a Staghorn would be legal for you. It is easy to clean. And very accurate. Also I bought mine for $89.00 new. The old technology was not replaced because it did not work well, it was replaced because they had to make a bigger better so the people would open their wallets and buy another rifle. You want a great open breech conical shooter, get a White Rifle. It will throw conicals out there with tremendous accuracy, and is easy to clean as well....
07-21-2008 | 04:22 PM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Help me pick an inline....
What Cayugad just said. The make themcuter thanthe old CVA and TC inlines but they don't make them shoot any better. If I were just getting into muzzleloading I would buy a TC Black Diamond and never look back.
07-23-2008 | 02:08 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Help me pick an inline....
For me accuracy is paramount in my firearms. I have tried dozens of different brands of MZ's over the years, but I keep going back to the Knight rifles. The bottom line is the Knight's just shoot better(IMO). You may not care for the looks of a bolt, but I can get over how ugly my Knight Long Range Hunter is when I shoot it. The accuracy is unbelievable. I consider a 225 yard shot as doable every time. I have practiced alot to be able to do that. But I have no doubt that the KLRH will perform.
I put the Leupold B&C reticle on the rifle, and it works great. It took me all summer(last year) to adjust the scope properly.The rifle shoots so well that off the bench I will bet I can hit a quarter every time at 100 yards. The Knight LRH will "SHOOT". Tom.
I put the Leupold B&C reticle on the rifle, and it works great. It took me all summer(last year) to adjust the scope properly.The rifle shoots so well that off the bench I will bet I can hit a quarter every time at 100 yards. The Knight LRH will "SHOOT". Tom.
