Have any of you tried this unique conical? It is based on an over-sized Maxi-ball, and is hollowed-out, with a hard plastic insert. I think it is the longest, lightest conical on the market. I would love to know the BC of this slug.

I have handled the expanded .58 slug in this picture, and it was very impressive to say the least. I am sure I will be getting a lot of reports on it's performance on game this fall. I talk to the exclusive distributor all the time, as he is right down the road from me. I told him about these slugs about a year ago, and he got around to ordering some to try out and see if they were worthy of keeping in stock.

Last time I went in there he had a big smile on his face when he saw me, and took me over to the shelf displaying a full assortment of Black Widow Venoms in stock. He tested it out, and said he beleives it is a good bullet. I think it expanded to around 2 1/2 to three times it's caliber no joke!

I get excellent accuracy with the .45 slugs at about 750fps out of my air rifle with shallow rifling and a 1:20 twist, but I can't get them to go fast enough to expand in saturated phonebooks. The hard tip does seem to make for some penetration, though!

http://www.thegunworks.com/custprodgun.cfm?ProductID=930&do=detail&Ca t2Option=yes


205grain .45 Black Widow Venom next to much heavier Buffalo Bullet and Hornady Conicals.

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They look pretty neat. but I'm not sure if they're a gimmick or not since regular Maxiconicals are known to expand very well without aninsert.

But what is potentiallyuseful about themis that theyoffer a different length and weight bullet to try out in rifles of various twist rates when compared to the TC Maxi's and other conicals.

Ifwe comparethe 275 grain .50 Widow Maker to the 275 grain TC Maxi Hunter, the Widow Makeris longer andtherefore mightactually perform better ifinserted intoa.54 sabot.






So the Widow Makers do offer an alternative to try out,to obtain better accuracy out of some barrels, and to reducetheamount of felt recoil against all of theothermuch heavier-for-caliberMaxi's.
Also, if thelighter 205 grain .45 Widow Maker doesexpand faster than plain lead TC Maxi's, thenit might be a more effectiveperformer ongame smallerthanthe average size deer.
Compared to the 133 grain .45 round ball, it's probably better on deer. But it's doubtful that it would be asgood ondeer compared tothe 240 or the 255 grain .45TC's.

Becausetheir price is pretty expensive after shipping, you're lucky that you can buy them locally. Not too many peoplewould order them just to experiment, unless they really want to try something different and are willing to risksome money for a chance toimprove performance, accuracy and range.

I will keep you posted when I hear of any performance on game. I know the distributor was hesitant to carry them until he tested them personally with his personal test criteria, and he found them worthy of stocking. So we'll have to wait and see I guess. I was hoping someone here might have killed something with one already.

They look like a Lyman Maxiball that has been drilled and a plastic nose put in them. I never had a problem with the maxiball. Still it would be interesting to see how they work. So anyone shooting them, be sure to post range results on them. Especially is you shoot a deer or hog. They look like a good deer load.