rynigner, if you can use and want a smokeless powder gun,the Ultra is out of your price range so I guess it would be a Savage, if you don't intend to use smokeless then the Triumph, which is really a much improved Omega is the best combination of a good shooter thats easier to take care of than the rest in my opinion. Lee

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As stated, depends on where he hunts. If all he will shoot is sabots, then the list already stated is good. However, if he will be hunting with conicals, I would personally stay away from T/C newer guns because they have a QLA (false muzzle) which makes shooting conicals very "iffy". My Omega and many others won't shoot conicals worth a durn. I love the design of my Omega and ease of cleaning and it shoots sabots very well, but will not shoot a conical except for powerbelts. I am certainly not the only one with this problem. Good luck.

Hey guys thanks for all the help. We ended up getting him a T/C Triumph with the hardwoods synthetic stock and stainless barrel from cabelas... Not sure if the knife they are sending with it will make it into the present wrapping,lol.... tx, what exactly is a conical bullet so I can advise him from using them. If you couldn't tell I am not familiar with ML's at all....

Excellent choice. A conical is a bullet without a sabot basically, usually all lead and usually in slower twist rifles like a caplock that shoot ML caps not 209 primers. Inlines shoot "in line" with the bore, side locks shoot on the side of the breech, flint locks are side locks that shoot with a piece of stone for ignition. Chap Gleason

The finish on the barrel isnt stainless steel, its some kind of painted on finish, they call it Weathershield.

Ditto. Excellent choice, he should be very pleased!