Triumph or Krb7
01-10-2008, 12:04 PM
#42
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
RE: Triumph or Krb7
UC
Have you told Cdad that yet? you 2 nuclear fission guys could probably really communicate in the upper edges of spacedom...
speaking of which check your PM's
Nothing drives me nuts, that trip was completed long ago.
speaking of which check your PM's
01-10-2008, 07:57 PM
#44
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 986
RE: Triumph or Krb7
ORIGINAL: sabotloader
MLKeith
From my point of view - I really do not care which rifle or manufacturer it is - your point is the number one point for you as it is or should be with each of us. This drives Undeclocked nuts - butI still think my Remingtons are the best gun I own including the White...
Sidenote... did you see my post on that elk I shot this year. This is the second elk with a ML for me (I have shot plenty prior but with a 300 Win Mag and a Nosler 200 grain Partition) and both of these ML elkwere good clean harvests. Since I have read several of your posts I have been worried that maybe I should also be shooting big conicals at elk, I like you hunt by myseld most often and at my age I have no wish to track for any distance at all. but so far the .458's are working.
MLKeith
Personally I like the KRB a lot better with less fooling around finding something that works.
Sidenote... did you see my post on that elk I shot this year. This is the second elk with a ML for me (I have shot plenty prior but with a 300 Win Mag and a Nosler 200 grain Partition) and both of these ML elkwere good clean harvests. Since I have read several of your posts I have been worried that maybe I should also be shooting big conicals at elk, I like you hunt by myseld most often and at my age I have no wish to track for any distance at all. but so far the .458's are working.
01-10-2008, 08:12 PM
#45
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
RE: Triumph or Krb7
MLKeith
Ouch! that is not good...
Both are quality guns - sure hope one of them does it for you.
I really like my U-Mag and I certainly like the Omega's but I have a trust in the Remingtons that always brings me back...
My problem with ant gun is weight and balance, that is why I like the Omega - it feels lighter and handles like a Winchester feather weight - that I really like. The Remingtons are heavier but well balanced. The U-Mag is barrel heavy to me but man it shoots.I never shot a conical out of it or any other inline but it handles sabots and bullets just fine....
Pesronally I would send it and the stock toTC, bet you they would send you a whole new gun...
I think the front mounting lug is at fault as it can be turned side to side with the screw full tight.
I suspect it is going to be either the U-Mag or the KRB.
I really like my U-Mag and I certainly like the Omega's but I have a trust in the Remingtons that always brings me back...
My problem with ant gun is weight and balance, that is why I like the Omega - it feels lighter and handles like a Winchester feather weight - that I really like. The Remingtons are heavier but well balanced. The U-Mag is barrel heavy to me but man it shoots.I never shot a conical out of it or any other inline but it handles sabots and bullets just fine....
side to side with the screw full tight. Have to decide how to fix that one.
01-10-2008, 08:16 PM
#46
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 7
RE: Triumph or Krb7
revpilot,
I recently just got my first ML, and by my really original username you probably could have guessed it is the tc triumph. My dad got me into this, as he owns a few omegas that I thought were good guns, easy to use, and good shooters. I got it from Cabelas, the all camo version and got a sweet deal on it, grand total was like 412 and some change. I have been out to the range as much as possible with it and here is some things about it, hope it helps.
As soon as I got the gun, I did put a scope on it. I have no problems priming the gun or removing the breach plug by hand with the scope on it. On one visit to the range, the breach plug came easily out by hand after 30 rounds at the range. Just make sure its well lubed, and its all downhill from there.
I started out shooting 100gr of american powder in sticks, and a 200gr shockwave bullet. The american powder, the regular stuff, not shockeys gold, is crap. I was only holding about a 7 inch group from a bench and rest at 100yds. The stuff burned clean, no crud ring but then again its hard to get that when your powder sticks are trailing the bullet out of the gun from only partial burns, not to mention that the sticks don't fit in the barrel without a little force. The 200gr shockwaves were a little hard to load too, but I think that might be due having a bad batch of the sabots that was mentioned on page 3 or 4 in this thread. The slug didn't fit well in the sabot at all on the two boxes I had, it seemed like the slug was to big for the sabot.
Now I am shooting 100gr of loose triple 7 powder with a 250gr shockwave and all is much better. The loose triple 7 burns very consistently and the 250gr shockwave can be loaded with ease. Now, I am holding about a 3 inch group at 100yds, which is good for me. The triple 7 does leave a little ring in the barrel, but I do use a damp(not wet) patch and then 2 dry patches inbetween every shot. Thought about maybe experimenting with different primers to see if it makes a difference, right now I use the CCI I think it is. On the same trip to the range with the breach plug there was snow on the ground, and after 30 shots, there were only a couple of tiny spots of powder on top of the snow, so the loose triple 7 does burn much better.
I like the QLA on the gun, and it shoots consistent. I shoot just as good with it as I do my centerfire rifles, so...I guess I don't really understand what the issue with the QLA is as I have not shot a ML without it.
Really the only downside is that the camo is wearing off the end of the barrel from shooting. All in all I love the new gun and can not wait to take it out next fall. Until then the range will have to satisfy my desires...haha
Good luck with your decision!
I recently just got my first ML, and by my really original username you probably could have guessed it is the tc triumph. My dad got me into this, as he owns a few omegas that I thought were good guns, easy to use, and good shooters. I got it from Cabelas, the all camo version and got a sweet deal on it, grand total was like 412 and some change. I have been out to the range as much as possible with it and here is some things about it, hope it helps.
As soon as I got the gun, I did put a scope on it. I have no problems priming the gun or removing the breach plug by hand with the scope on it. On one visit to the range, the breach plug came easily out by hand after 30 rounds at the range. Just make sure its well lubed, and its all downhill from there.
I started out shooting 100gr of american powder in sticks, and a 200gr shockwave bullet. The american powder, the regular stuff, not shockeys gold, is crap. I was only holding about a 7 inch group from a bench and rest at 100yds. The stuff burned clean, no crud ring but then again its hard to get that when your powder sticks are trailing the bullet out of the gun from only partial burns, not to mention that the sticks don't fit in the barrel without a little force. The 200gr shockwaves were a little hard to load too, but I think that might be due having a bad batch of the sabots that was mentioned on page 3 or 4 in this thread. The slug didn't fit well in the sabot at all on the two boxes I had, it seemed like the slug was to big for the sabot.
Now I am shooting 100gr of loose triple 7 powder with a 250gr shockwave and all is much better. The loose triple 7 burns very consistently and the 250gr shockwave can be loaded with ease. Now, I am holding about a 3 inch group at 100yds, which is good for me. The triple 7 does leave a little ring in the barrel, but I do use a damp(not wet) patch and then 2 dry patches inbetween every shot. Thought about maybe experimenting with different primers to see if it makes a difference, right now I use the CCI I think it is. On the same trip to the range with the breach plug there was snow on the ground, and after 30 shots, there were only a couple of tiny spots of powder on top of the snow, so the loose triple 7 does burn much better.
I like the QLA on the gun, and it shoots consistent. I shoot just as good with it as I do my centerfire rifles, so...I guess I don't really understand what the issue with the QLA is as I have not shot a ML without it.
Really the only downside is that the camo is wearing off the end of the barrel from shooting. All in all I love the new gun and can not wait to take it out next fall. Until then the range will have to satisfy my desires...haha
Good luck with your decision!
01-10-2008, 09:21 PM
#47
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
RE: Triumph or Krb7
Indiana SmokePole, Ron I sent you one to, but the machine did not tell me it was sent like it should. Any how I agree with you, If we could sit down and talk over coffee we would both benifit from it. Lee
01-10-2008, 09:30 PM
#48
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
RE: Triumph or Krb7
TimmyTriumph, I have a question for you, My Triumph has no blow back with any load but I have heard someone say that theres did, does yours blow back into the action any? and have you tried different sabots? The reason I ask about the sabots is that the HPH24 loaded ok but when I tried the Crush Rib it not only loaded a bit better but my groups when from 2.5 inches to the 3/4 to 1.5 range which made me much happier. Lee
01-10-2008, 10:03 PM
#49
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,009
RE: Triumph or Krb7
To all forum members I have talked to Lemoyne and we have put every thing said about each other behind us
and starting from new , I have APPOLIgized to him and him to me , Now I would like to SEND a great big Sorry to each and every one of you also.
Underclocked is wright this is not a place for confritation it is about us helping one another in the sport that we all love , It is OK to not agree on every aspect but with out any fighting as we have to fight hard enough aginst the anti hunters and gun lobbyest that would love to shut down forum like this.
Again SORRY
INDIANA
and starting from new , I have APPOLIgized to him and him to me , Now I would like to SEND a great big Sorry to each and every one of you also.
Underclocked is wright this is not a place for confritation it is about us helping one another in the sport that we all love , It is OK to not agree on every aspect but with out any fighting as we have to fight hard enough aginst the anti hunters and gun lobbyest that would love to shut down forum like this.
Again SORRY
INDIANA
01-11-2008, 11:59 AM
#50
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
RE: Triumph or Krb7
ORIGINAL: Indiana SmokePole
To all forum members I have talked to Lemoyne and we have put every thing said about each other behind us
and starting from new , I have APPOLIgized to him and him to me , Now I would like to SEND a great big Sorry to each and every one of you also.
Underclocked is wright this is not a place for confritation it is about us helping one another in the sport that we all love , It is OK to not agree on every aspect but with out any fighting as we have to fight hard enough aginst the anti hunters and gun lobbyest that would love to shut down forum like this.
Again SORRY
INDIANA
To all forum members I have talked to Lemoyne and we have put every thing said about each other behind us
and starting from new , I have APPOLIgized to him and him to me , Now I would like to SEND a great big Sorry to each and every one of you also.
Underclocked is wright this is not a place for confritation it is about us helping one another in the sport that we all love , It is OK to not agree on every aspect but with out any fighting as we have to fight hard enough aginst the anti hunters and gun lobbyest that would love to shut down forum like this.
Again SORRY
INDIANA