Powerbelts
10-26-2007, 02:26 AM
#21
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RE: Powerbelts
ORIGINAL: cayugad
Camocop - if your shooting 245 grain powerbelts with good accuracy and three pellets, perhaps something like a 250 -300 grains range in Nosler, Speer, or Barnes might also give you excellent accuracy, wound channels, and pass through.. just a thought.
Camocop - if your shooting 245 grain powerbelts with good accuracy and three pellets, perhaps something like a 250 -300 grains range in Nosler, Speer, or Barnes might also give you excellent accuracy, wound channels, and pass through.. just a thought.
10-26-2007, 05:34 AM
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RE: Powerbelts
ORIGINAL: CamoCop
my rifle seems to like the 3 pellets, so that's what i'm going to try next year. i'm going to stay with the 3 pellets but switch to another bullet that will stay together.
ORIGINAL: cayugad
Camocop - if your shooting 245 grain powerbelts with good accuracy and three pellets, perhaps something like a 250 -300 grains range in Nosler, Speer, or Barnes might also give you excellent accuracy, wound channels, and pass through.. just a thought.
Camocop - if your shooting 245 grain powerbelts with good accuracy and three pellets, perhaps something like a 250 -300 grains range in Nosler, Speer, or Barnes might also give you excellent accuracy, wound channels, and pass through.. just a thought.
Best Wishes on finding your right bullet, keep us posted on your experience.
Chap Gleason
10-26-2007, 05:51 AM
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RE: Powerbelts
every muzzleloader i have shot with 150 grains of pyrodex,777or shockeys gold has lost accuratcy . groups have went from 1 1/2 -2in at hundred yards up to 4-5in when using 150grns . where we hunt i really don't see the need for over 100 grns of any powder.
10-26-2007, 06:07 AM
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RE: Powerbelts
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every muzzleloader i have shot with 150 grains of pyrodex,777or shockeys gold has lost accuratcy . groups have went from 1 1/2 -2in at hundred yards up to 4-5in when using 150grns . where we hunt i really don't see the need for over 100 grns of any powder.
every muzzleloader i have shot with 150 grains of pyrodex,777or shockeys gold has lost accuratcy . groups have went from 1 1/2 -2in at hundred yards up to 4-5in when using 150grns . where we hunt i really don't see the need for over 100 grns of any powder.
10-26-2007, 07:39 AM
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RE: Powerbelts
ORIGINAL: srwshooter
every muzzleloader i have shot with 150 grains of pyrodex,777or shockeys gold has lost accuratcy . groups have went from 1 1/2 -2in at hundred yards up to 4-5in when using 150grns . where we hunt i really don't see the need for over 100 grns of any powder.
every muzzleloader i have shot with 150 grains of pyrodex,777or shockeys gold has lost accuratcy . groups have went from 1 1/2 -2in at hundred yards up to 4-5in when using 150grns . where we hunt i really don't see the need for over 100 grns of any powder.
I guess If your were hunting elk or something atlong ranges you might need the 150gr.
chris
10-27-2007, 01:14 AM
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RE: Powerbelts
i started out using 777 and quickly determined it sucks in my gun. i gave what i had left away and bought pyrodex. that in itself tightened my groups up by 50%-70%. like i said, i tried 100 grains and wasn't happy. the powerbelts shoot great on paper in front of 150 grains but don't hold together when in contact with meat. maybe heavier powerbelts? after all i was only shooting 245 grain aero tips
10-27-2007, 07:28 AM
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RE: Powerbelts
ORIGINAL: CamoCop
i started out using 777 and quickly determined it sucks in my gun. i gave what i had left away and bought pyrodex. that in itself tightened my groups up by 50%-70%. like i said, i tried 100 grains and wasn't happy. the powerbelts shoot great on paper in front of 150 grains but don't hold together when in contact with meat. maybe heavier powerbelts? after all i was only shooting 245 grain aero tips
i started out using 777 and quickly determined it sucks in my gun. i gave what i had left away and bought pyrodex. that in itself tightened my groups up by 50%-70%. like i said, i tried 100 grains and wasn't happy. the powerbelts shoot great on paper in front of 150 grains but don't hold together when in contact with meat. maybe heavier powerbelts? after all i was only shooting 245 grain aero tips
http://www.harvesterbullets.com/sabertooth.htm
My brother switched to these from PB 295g platiuums in his TC Encore shooting 3 pellets of 777. If you will consider easy loading sabots I will give you some suggestions, for long range shooting:
bonded SW 300g
Barnes TMZ 295g
Parker Ballistic Extreme 275g,
for shorter range shooting:
Nosler Partion HG 300g or .458 rifle bullet 300g
Speer Gold Dot 300g
If the sabots are too tight to go down easy, try some MMP 24's or Crushed rib with the bullet. Sabots are only $5 for 50 at MidSouth Shooters supply. Buy a bunch, so you can try different combinations. You want tight but not pound down the barrel tight. Swab between shots.
The 300g bullets have better BC,penetrate better and have more down range energy. Look what the 45-70 boyz shoot in their Sharps. That is my logic.
Chap Gleason
10-27-2007, 07:59 AM
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RE: Powerbelts
ORIGINAL: CamoCop
i have been ML hunting these last 2 weeks. i shot a 6 point last week and my dad shot a 6 point the week before. we both had the same results with powerbelt bullets. the bullets put the deer down but did not stay together and expand like they should, instead they exploded and fragmented throughout the vital area. we could not find any piece of his or my bullet when cleaning the deer (there was no exit holes). his deer was shot at 15 yards using 150 grains of pyrodex and mine was shot at 67 yards with 150 grains of pyrodex. has anyone else experienced this? i like using powerbelts because of their accuracy, ease of loading and simplicity.
i have been ML hunting these last 2 weeks. i shot a 6 point last week and my dad shot a 6 point the week before. we both had the same results with powerbelt bullets. the bullets put the deer down but did not stay together and expand like they should, instead they exploded and fragmented throughout the vital area. we could not find any piece of his or my bullet when cleaning the deer (there was no exit holes). his deer was shot at 15 yards using 150 grains of pyrodex and mine was shot at 67 yards with 150 grains of pyrodex. has anyone else experienced this? i like using powerbelts because of their accuracy, ease of loading and simplicity.
In addition, IF you get really good accuracy at 150 grains, (MANY DON"T), you will need to check out how your rifles shoot with just 100 grains.
10-27-2007, 08:24 AM
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RE: Powerbelts
Shot a nice doe with the 245 Areo Tips this year, using 2-50gr. Pyrodex pills. This load shoots nice in my CVA Wolf. Penetration? Hard to say...shot it thru the neck, so yes, I did indeed get a pass-thru.....
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