I have been doing some serious reading and web surfing to find the best bullet to shoot out to 200 yards. I am big fan of the Hornady 250 SST just still always looking. I tried the Barnes TMZ 250 and didn't like it but that was my opinion. Well I am still surfing and found this page and thought I would share it with you. Happy reading!!

http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/EditorsView.html

Yes that is Toby Bridges pages, he use to be a Savage shooter, but now is sponsored by Knight and a few others (Parker). I tried a lot of long distance bullets in my Savage using the supplied sabot, my shooting was here:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/this_is_my_savage_10_ml_page.htm

I only shot 300g bullets since that is what tends to go thru a deer, the 250 and lower tend to be on the off side. I could not get the TMZ to shoot well in my Savage, but I did NOT mess around with different Sabots to get them to shoot. I found the TC SW 300g unbonded was most accurate and the Parker Ballistic Extreme 275g was next best. I am using the Parker BE this year for hunting because it was nearly as accurate, all reports I found on web had great expansion and pass thrus.
Chap Gleason

River Rat,I have been going thriugh the same process, so far the 200gr Shock Wave which has a BC of .269 and the same sectional density as a 300gr 45 cal bullet is the only one that has impressed me for over 150 yds; Part of it is that it seems to shoot very accurate and once the rigjht load is found it is usally a heavy load which is excellant if you have the accuracy. Let me know if you find anything that is reasonably comparable. Lee

I have taken 2 deer and both of them took 3 steps before hitting the ground the bullet is SLIVERLIGHTING 300 GRAIN 85 grains of triple 777 a blood trail a blind person could follow
I also taken a huge 8 pointer a few years back with a Qt 45 350 grain from precision 65 yards same powder charge dead lung shots but the deer went over 100 yard before piling up: seem all the energy was released inside the chest area only one hole poor blood trail.
My next deer large doe was with a 375 buffalo SSB outstanding bullet with the same powder charge deer took 3 steps; gun used a 50 cal thunderhawk
all my flinters are with RB and have no problems but limit my shots to 75 yards

Go with something from precision rifle and you won't go wrong. www.prbullet.com They saved my muzzleloading career. Thanks, Greg

Review this for SW and Parker Ballistic Extreme:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/Parker%20BE%20TC%20SW%20shot%20into%20ballistic%20 gel.pdf

if you have a user account on ModernMuzzleloading, then look here:

http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/phpBB/login.php?redirect=viewtopic.php&t=6450&si d=71b289a435c29833d1afbd08362dee62for the same article.


Chap

Please see this:

http://www.snipersparadise.com/tsmag/July03/july03.htm

and in particular this chart:
http://www.snipersparadise.com/tsmag/July03/TSD%20Wound%20Chart-MZ.xls

and if you don't have Excel, I have screen capture this from reseach I did a few years back:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/TSD%20Wound%20Chart-MZ.htm

Anyway,you will see relative performance of PRB, PB, Barnes, Nosler Partition, Cast Bullet this bullet review really helped me make my decision on bullets. In fact if you see my web page, here:

and read the books I referenced you will get an excellent idea, here the the web site, look at the bottom for books and articles:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/bullets_penetration_tests_for_mu.htm

You may also want to purchase a copy of this:

http://www.ramworks.net/estore.html

It is excellent and comprehensive.

Best wishes on your bullet review.

Chap

You might want to give the partitions a try.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2300200

Chap,

Thanks for the info and I will be looking threw it. So far I have noticed that the Shockwave shot better then the SST however are they not the same bullet? Very interesting to see that maybe they really are not the same bullet just made by the same company. Great Info to get started.

River Rat

Yes, the SST and the SW are the same bullet, just different color of the ballistic tip. I have had the same experience, the SW shot better. The SST were way too tight in my BP inline rifles. There were OK in my Savage, but the SST shot better, see this for the SW:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/TC_Shockwave_300g_2007_06_02_AA5744_44g_FederalPri mer_default%20sabot.jpg

and this for the SST:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/Hornady%20SST_300g_2007_06_02_AA5744_44g_FederalPr imer_default%20sabot.jpg

shot in my Savage.

SST shot out of my BP rifles a few years ago:
http://www.the-gleasons.com/HornadySST300g.htm

I love the topic of bullet performance, andin paticular thebullets that do "boom flop" well.

Chap Gleason