So I guess the next ? is whats a good hunting load?

What you can shoot accurate. Anything with about 80 grains of powder and a good performance bullet will do the trick for deer. If you're hunting larger game like moose, bear, elk, then you might want to up the powder charge and pay attention to the projectile.

Something as simple as 80 grains of powder and a 240 grain XTP will take game. Whether they fall where they stand, who can judge. But the bullet will have plenty power to take game.

bigdreamin,My brand new TC traditions is supposed to be here in a week at 313 dollars; Know that I am not knocking any brand and every one has there own opinion but if I did not think it was the best I would have gotten something else, and I have been shooting MZ for 60 years,which has given me the opertunity to fined out a lot the hard way. Lee