New to muzzleloading
05-11-2007 | 08:06 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: New to muzzleloading
ORIGINAL: SteveBNy
Too late - its history.I went way beyond what should be needed to get a gun to shoot even marginally well.
Four different powders in wide range of charge, 4 or 5 conicals(best pattern could be matched with some shotguns), and at least 5 sabot combo's that never approached a group useful outside of 20 yds.
Sent back for evaluation - returned with a huge scratch in the laminate stock and the advise to shoot pellets - which I refuse to do. After 4 unanswered calls requesting to talk with a supervisor, I gave up and stopped the hemorrhaging. Sold a top of the line $500 plus anchor for a $100 to a friend willing to use pellets and limit range. With powder, projectiles and shipping, lost well over $500 - needless to say, Tc will never see another dime and I am not bashful about sharing the reason. I know others have received nothing but fine service from them, but this was not so in my case.
The best customer service department is the one never needed - TC's is reportedly good because they get far more practice then they should.
Steve
Too late - its history.I went way beyond what should be needed to get a gun to shoot even marginally well.
Four different powders in wide range of charge, 4 or 5 conicals(best pattern could be matched with some shotguns), and at least 5 sabot combo's that never approached a group useful outside of 20 yds.
Sent back for evaluation - returned with a huge scratch in the laminate stock and the advise to shoot pellets - which I refuse to do. After 4 unanswered calls requesting to talk with a supervisor, I gave up and stopped the hemorrhaging. Sold a top of the line $500 plus anchor for a $100 to a friend willing to use pellets and limit range. With powder, projectiles and shipping, lost well over $500 - needless to say, Tc will never see another dime and I am not bashful about sharing the reason. I know others have received nothing but fine service from them, but this was not so in my case.
The best customer service department is the one never needed - TC's is reportedly good because they get far more practice then they should.
Steve
Chap Gleason
05-11-2007 | 08:18 PM
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RE: New to muzzleloading
If it were me going to Colorado for an elk hunt (and I wish it was), I would probably opt for a percussion sidelock hurling the biggest chunk of lead I can shoot accurately. The man can't use scopes, sabots, or pellets. So why bother with an inline? I betcha a T/C Hawken with maxiballs would fit the bill just fine. It's old school, but you have to deal with the laws.
05-11-2007 | 08:55 PM
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im from colorado and i use both styles of rifles. Not all inlines have to use sabots,pellets and a scope.
im from colorado and i use both styles of rifles. Not all inlines have to use sabots,pellets and a scope.
05-11-2007 | 09:42 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: New to muzzleloading
While it may be true that some inlines don't shoot conicals well, in my experience most inlines do very well with them. My Magbolt shoots the 460NE just as accurately as my Lyman GPH. Both print them right around an inch or less at 100 yards. The 3 Knight Discs that a friend has puts them into less than 1.5" and he's nearly blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.
It's just a matter of finding the loads/bullet your gun likes.
I would suggest getting whatever style gun you like that fits you and is comfortable to shoot and carry and find a load that works with it. You will be happier that way. Good luck.
It's just a matter of finding the loads/bullet your gun likes.I would suggest getting whatever style gun you like that fits you and is comfortable to shoot and carry and find a load that works with it. You will be happier that way. Good luck.
05-12-2007 | 07:29 AM
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I would suggest getting whatever style gun you like that fits you and is comfortable to shoot and carry and find a load that works with it. You will be happier that way. Good luck.
I would suggest getting whatever style gun you like that fits you and is comfortable to shoot and carry and find a load that works with it. You will be happier that way. Good luck.
That is what I also recommend buy the gun first that you want to use that is legal in colorado. Then he sould work on bullets, loads, primers and testing them at 25 forwindageand 50 yards, then go to 100 once you find a bullet that groups at 50. If a bullet will not group after 6 shot discard it, keep a journal of each shot and buy loose powder. Try the NE, bull Stops, PowerBelt 348 and Harvester Saber Tooth 350, starting at 80 grains, which ever one does the best groups at 50 yards then shoot that at 100, realize that open sights is going to spread your groups out by3 or 4inches.
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