My Omega, shots the Sabortooth best of all except sabotsthe SW's group a bit tighter, the 270 and the 300gr Sabortooth both shoot quite well for me. Lee

Thanks to all for the great info. I contacted Dave at No Excuses and recieved some info. Only the 460 is legal in colorodo and he said that several of his clients shoot omegas with 70-85 grains of 777 for best results. So that will be my starting point, then I will try the rest. Should be a great spring of testing bullets and powder. I will keep you all posted on my findings. This will be a group project because the hunting partners that will be joining me all shoot Omegas and love to burn powder.

Since penetration is 2nd after shot placement, do some testing on bullet penetration. I used 5 gallon bucket of soil turned sideways:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/bucket.htm

http://www.the-gleasons.com/bullets_penetration_tests_for_mu.htm

I have read where others shoot into a soil bank, or stacks of plywood or wet newspapers or some have shot into 1 gallon paint buckets of water stacked in a line with about 4" air gap between the paint buckets. 9 paint bucketsin a row.You can then judge the penetration, expansion and hitting power of the bullet.A bullet that only goes thru 1 gallon of water is not that good. A bullet that goes thru 9 paint buckets is excellent. I have read where a flat nosed cast bullet penetrated 39" of balistic gel.
Chap gleason Va

Chap Yespenetration will be important after accuracy. I use a 3/4 inch piece of plywood and 3-4 phone books forpenetration and most importantly lead retention. I was the guy that got blasted by the powerbelt lovers during the fall after I reported their light weight bullets exploded on impact. The light weights were the worst of 10 slugs I tested. Now for those PB lovers I did not test the heavier bullets. They will be a part of this test. Also after reading more articles than I can believe about the PB I am thinking that they can not be pushed with alot of powder. At 100 grains they have major issues. Just my finding as a non expert. I have a simple formula for success. I want a bullet to be able to blow through a shoulder and enter the boiler room intact not in pieces.

That so called "boiler room" i found out held no vital organs and only blew a hole in the base of thewind pipe and did not kill quickly. Put some lead in a lung or heart and its dead a lot quicker.

Something to think about is the fact that if you are hunting deer the heart lung area is quite a bit different in location than pig or bear, I also like the back edge or very slightly behind the shoulder on deer but hold forward of that on bear or boar. Lee

In the hills of NY the boiler room is where the heart and lungs reside.

Right, and thats behind the shoulder.

You won't have any penetration problems with a 460gr No Excuse. You might try some of the Bullshop offerings also (he has a 460gr bullet). Just bought 500 conicals from the Bullshop---only cost $118.

N-rod Bullshops will be test #2 after no excuses.What are you shooting for powder and a gun? Our testing crew is going to shootpioneer, 777 and clean shot powder. We all shoot Omega's so this could be a interesting spring. Also, with these two slugs did you use a wad betwen the powder and slug Thanks again