Has anybody ever heard of or tryed a Bad Bull smokeless powder MZ loader? I heard some people talking about them at work they said it shoots 300gr 45 cal bullet 2900 fps with 6" groups at 300 yards is this possible?


Never mindI found a link to the site, I dont want to know how nice they are because ifI spent that much on a gun I would be looking for my 3 rd wife and half of a half of a half of my retirement would equal working till I am 80 LOL!! http://www.badbullmuzzleloaders.com/html/index.html

I bumbed it becauseI edited the post with the site info.

Just my opinion on some of the Mad Bulls and other Super Rifles out there.. you can only push or should I say need to push a muzzleloader projectile so far, to do even 200 yard work.

I would look at something more in your budget. Your wallet will thank you, the deer will be just as dead, and your wife and pension will be safe and sound. And you will not spend Christmas on the couch...

You are right I bought a omega last year and it does shoot great i have taken 2 deer with it, one was over 160 yards out so I do have no complaints it just sounded like a neat toy to own.

I know all about neat toys to own... I have too many of them now.

I'm getting chills thinking about just how much recoil is associated with 250 grains of powder and a 2900 fps 300 grain projectile. Brrrrr.

I think they said they use 120 to 140 gr of smokeless powder I dont know the equivalent in 777 or black powder. They say the muzzel break helps but it still has to pack a wallop.

Yeah the smokeless and the muzzle break would take some of the bite out of it. What was the powder? Varget?4831?I might be confused about which ml I saw they recommended 5 pellets and a 300 grain saboted bullet but I though it was Bad Bull.

Can you imagine double loading 140 grains of smokeless? Mygoodness, their isn't much room for error. One better keep his wits about him and not make any mistakes.

There is a link to there site on my original post they talk about the whole design process even building the loads and the different powders, you might want to read it it is pretty interesting.