Just got my 290 gr TMZs,from Cabelas, yesterday. They look realy good.

Here is the balistics as printed on the box. ( Knight brand, they were quite alot cheaper-- $15.99 for 30 comp. to $18.95 for 24 for Barnes)


150 gr. of 777 ---- 290 gr TMZ


Range (yds.) 0 50 100 150 200

Bullet Impact -1.50 .51 0.00 -3.48 -10.45

Vel. (ft/sec) 2011 1857 1712 1579 1458

Ener. (ft/lbs) 2604 2221 1888 1606 1368



If these balistics are accurate these should be very good out to 200 yds.

nice looking numbers.. I will have to check them out. Thanks for the heads up. Be sure and tell us how they shoot for you when you get around to testing them..

I can hardly wait to try them out, it's just so darn muddy, here in Michigan, at the places I can shoot.

What rifle are you using with the new Knight bullets? Are they 451s? Let us also know the difficulty level forloading/seating?

That's a big price difference between what appears to be two identical bullets in different brand packages.

I am shooting an Omega. I think they are supposed to be .451 but I checked a couple of them and,with my digital calipers, the were .450. Maybe they will load decent in my tight Omega. They came with yellow sabots but I have some HPH 24s and some crush ribs if the yellow ones are too tight. I haven't tried to load any, yet, but I will soon. We just experienced a death in the family so that wll, pretty much, put everything on hold for awhile.

Its odd you should post this thread. I was looking at the Cabela's Shooting Catalog just the other day.I noticed the Barnes and Knight bullets you are talking about. I also noticed the price difference. They have them on opposite pages. I wondered to myself, how many people paid they extra money for 6 less bullets.

Anyway, keep us posted and let us know how they shoot.

I haven't been able to shoot them yet but I did try loading them in my Omega. With the sabots that came with them they loaded fairly hard, with a clean barrel, don't know if they would be too hard with a spit patched barrel. They load very good with a HPH 24, pretty loose with a crushrib. They load easier than the 300 gr Barnes MZs, the crush
ribswork good with them.

Sorry to here about your family'sloss.

Thanks! It was my daughters ex-husband. We have always been close to him, divorce or not,