Remington Primers
10-31-2005, 08:00 AM
#2
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
RE: Remington Primers
cpeay
There is if you are talking about the new Kleenbores for muzzleloaders. The STS-209 is remington's normal primer for shot gun shells.
The new Kleenbore's are designed for muzzloading - I have been using Remington 209-4 Premier Primers for years now. They were designed for the 410 shotgun, but a lot of people were using them hoping to reduce the amount 'crud" that t7 left in the barrel. The new Kleenbore was brought out to replace them as well as charge you a whole more money for the product.
There is if you are talking about the new Kleenbores for muzzleloaders. The STS-209 is remington's normal primer for shot gun shells.
The new Kleenbore's are designed for muzzloading - I have been using Remington 209-4 Premier Primers for years now. They were designed for the 410 shotgun, but a lot of people were using them hoping to reduce the amount 'crud" that t7 left in the barrel. The new Kleenbore was brought out to replace them as well as charge you a whole more money for the product.
10-31-2005, 06:14 PM
#3
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 111
RE: Remington Primers
I had the Remington ML fail to ignite 777 pellets, won't use them anymore, using the Winchester, a lot hotter primer. Use American Pioneer Powder, only use the 777 if I have to reload in the field. Got a 145 lb field dressed buck at 135 yards with my Omega, 3 777 pellets and 348 Powerbelt, really knocked him on his rear, neck shot.Had shot under one the day before at 120 yards, reloaded with the 777's that I used on the one I shot.
10-31-2005, 06:57 PM
#4
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Missouri
Posts: 84
RE: Remington Primers
Just started shooting a ML this year and haven't used anything but the Remington Kleanbore primers. Really can't make any comparison with other brands. But I've hadno problems with them in my Encore and not much of a mess after 15 - 20 shots. I don'tplan to changeeven if the cost is a bit higher.
10-31-2005, 09:55 PM
#5
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Posts: 6
RE: Remington Primers
Two weekends ago at the range, I fired 110 grains of BM3 behind300 grain Shockwaves using both Winchester and Remington Kleanbore primers (first time using the Kleanbores). The point of impact for the Kleanbores was about 6" low at 100 yards compared to the Winchesters. I suspect the Kleanbores may not be hot enough to get full power from the BM3. Has anyone out therechronographed the velocity of BM3 with Kleanbores?
Paul (rabbitbuster)
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Paul (rabbitbuster)
"The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are." -- Marcus Aurelius
11-01-2005, 06:21 PM
#7
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 21,193
RE: Remington Primers
I've only experimented a little with the new Remington Kleenbore Primers. I've only shot off three quarters of a tray which is hardly enough to form an opinion. So far, I really do not see the benefit in them. The reason for them was an attempt to reduce the crud ring which was being formed in many rifles using Triple Se7en powder for the most part. Face it, all powders leave a crud ring of sorts. The problem is around the degree of hardness created in the crud ring.
Since I shoot very little Triple Se7en, I never experience a hard crud ring. I do experience fowling, and like the rest of you, I swab it out. The reason I was trying the new brand of primers was some problems I had with the Black Diamond breech plug nipple. I at first attributed it to the primer but perhaps it was simple a matter of old age for the nipple. Further testing will answer that I guess. I have not had any ignition problems using them in a Thompson Center, Knight nor CVA of course I do not shoot pellets and most often shoot Goex.
Since I shoot very little Triple Se7en, I never experience a hard crud ring. I do experience fowling, and like the rest of you, I swab it out. The reason I was trying the new brand of primers was some problems I had with the Black Diamond breech plug nipple. I at first attributed it to the primer but perhaps it was simple a matter of old age for the nipple. Further testing will answer that I guess. I have not had any ignition problems using them in a Thompson Center, Knight nor CVA of course I do not shoot pellets and most often shoot Goex.
