I bought some of these today.I usually use winchester primers,but these say they can be shotup to 20 times in between cleanings.Even have a bore scope pic on this link here to show you what it means.They cost almost twice as much as winchester primers,but if it makes cleaning easier I'll go for it.It says..
We'll see.I will be shooting my gun next weekend,and will tell you about them.In the mean time have any of you tried them yet?
http://www.remington.com/ammo/blackpowder/bpammo.htm

I bought some the other day, too. Haven't been to the range yet but did a little experiment. Popped a remington kleenbore primer off, and ran a patch down to see the fouling. Not bad, I thought. Then, popped a CCI 209 primer off. Ran a patch. Hmmm...fouling looked almost the same. Not sure if these remington primers will live up to all the advertising hype. Just wish someone would make a true low "yield" - as in flame - 209 primer. My Omega can't shoot #11 caps and I'm too stubborn (read cheap) to buy the conversion breech plug.

They only cost twice as much at Wal*Mart.

That corporation is the only one thatpasses the HAZMAT fee to the powder & primer customers-only. Most other stores absorb the HAZMAT cost & they spread the cost across the entire sportings goods department products.

Eventually, alot more stores will be selling the new Kleanbore primers. They should sell for around $3.99-$4.99.

These primers are meantto help correct777's crusty fouling/crud ring. If you're not using 777, Winchester & CCI (regular) work real well. I like the weak Kleanbore-type primers because I am a 777 powder user & it will cut down on the crud ring significantly.

I like using the most potent/hottest primer for fouling my bore when I get to the range. I use three Federal 209A primers & they make a mess inside my bore. That works like a fouling shot for those that like a fouled barrel when shooting.

I bought an entire case of the Federals last fall. I should run out somewhere around Spring 2019.... lol

Hi guys, the thing I don't understand about this whole crud ring thing is I find (in my rifles that I will compare now) that the ring is no worse in my Encore using W209 primers than my scout using No11 percussion caps.

I think it is just the nature of T7 and has nothing to do with primers. I use both FFF and FF loose T7 and fouling seems about the same in all rifles no matter what I use for primers.

I do like the powder so much I will keep using it. I will keep using standard reloading primers as well I refuse to pay $3-$6 for a box of stinking primers.

The Winchester primers are middle-road for heat. Alot of times, the amount of crud ring will depend on the face design of the breechplug - in combination with the heat factors of the primer.

There's no doubt Kleanbores/Rem 209-4sreduce the ring around my Omega collar. I've noticed my flat-face breechplug produces less crud ring & less chance for breechplug seizures than my deep concave Omega breechplug -- using identical 209 primers, powder grain size& anti-seize grease.

Like you stated earlier.... every rifle is a little different & the mysteries continue as to what's the best method to correct it. I have a funny feeling that the missing link to correct all this may be the size of the pin hole at the face of the breechplug. I own three plugs & the hole size is very slightly different on all three using a sewing needle for measurement.

I have-yet to figure all this out .... may try to solve that aspect of this once the Detroit region falls into the lower 70s. I never shoot above that temperature& it's been in the 80s and 90s here for the past 2-1/2 months.

HMMM.I am using 777 loose powder,but don't like the idea of a weak charge.I was under the impression they were just as hot,but of some different type of material.Oh yeah Triple Se7en you busted me I got them at wally world.

T7 The reason I think I don't have the problems others have is I normally clean between rounds or at least every other round with all powders. Kinda like an automatic thing.

I started doing this when I switched to sabots in the early 90's. Good ol Break'O'ways. I am very happy with T7 loose powder and am always wondering why people have such a hard time with it. When I get a good crud build up that gets my ramrod stuck I just pour a little bore solvent or water down the barrel and the thing comes right out.

One reason you don't understand how much trouble people have with 777 is that you don't have my stainless Omega and don't live in Arizona. One shot with 100gr. 777 and a 300gr. sabot/bullet using a Winchester standard 209 primer and the crud ring is so heavy that you have to remove the breechplug and run a brass brush through several times to even consider being able to load a second shot. That is too much trouble for me. Black Mag'3 solves the problem and I hope Pinnacle will also.

Not to be a dink but I guess it sucks to be you. Just kidding but you can't load another round after shooting just one?

With my rifles I get some fouling but a wet patch takes care of it. I have only had to pull the plug a couple of times and that was because I stuck the rod and poured down a little to much cleaner and I did not want a missfire.

I use T/C #13 cleaner and Birchwood Casey's black powder solvent with great results. B/C is a bit more potent you can smell the chemicals but #13 works just fine.

I can shoot multible shots if I want but it makes cleaning harder and pressures go up as well as the POI.

WOW.. I never realized that the crud ring from Triple Se7en could be that bad. You would never think that climate would make that kind of difference. Here in Wisconsin I shoot the Triple Se7en in my rifles and granted there is a fowling, but nothing that a simple wet patch will not remove. I never realized that it could be that bad... No wonder some of the people on these boards are so concerned about finding a powder that will not fowl. I think Pinnacle might be a real solution for you and others like you.