Ok heres my story. I use goex FF in my TCA white mountain carbine. I wanted to try those pyrodex 50 gr pellets, but TCA reccomended against it. They say you need more spark than a percussion cap to get consitent fire, so I just never tried it. I am one of those guys that find something that works and sticks to it, and I dont plan on making any changes until the end of muzzle loader season. But I am finding in my area that goex FF is getting harder and harder to find. As it is now, I have to drive into the next town just to get it, and since they are the only place, they are charging more and more. With everybody's experience, what are my other options. The place around the corner from my house sells this black powder substitute, but they are willing to order me anything. Any suggestions. I just bought an inline, that i will probably hunt next year, but I love shooting that white mountain carbine, it has some sentimental value. Help me out please.

I have found that not to be true , my american knight used caps , and fired pellets just fine , but . My recomendation for powders would be , black mag 3 , and go alittle lighter with your loads , say cut them by 15% .

If muzzleloading is a significant hobby to you, like golf is to others, and you shoot/enjoy muzzleloaders year round, the best possible long term powder price is buying it by the case.

I shoot Flintlocksyear round and geta 25lb case of Goex delivered to my door for$10.25/lb...and the dirtributors will mix a case up as you like...I usually get 1lb 4F, 4lbs 2F, and 20lbs 3F.

If you don't shoot year round and/or don't want to lay out that much $$ all at once, try to find another guy or two to split a case with...it's by far the cheapest way to get powder.

(I order mine from a Goex distributor called JJPyrotechnics in Moscow, PA)

Although your White Mountain Carbine might well shoot pellets, because of the #11 spark they are not intended to do so because they do not get the most efficient ingnition that way. Stick with the loose powder and the #11 cap. Shoot the rifle the way the manufacturer wanted you to and you will not have troubles or disappointments.

If you're going to shoot an inline in the future, then again it will shoot pellets but there really is no advantage in doing so. Shoot loose powder. Save yourself lots of money. Pyrodex, Triple Se7en, BM3, APP, Pinnacle, all of them have advantages and disadvantages. Pyrodex RS should shoot just fine in your percussion capped White Mountain Carbine. It will also shoot excellent in your future inline if you really feel the need for one. Triple Se7en will also give you great results and more power. The others mentioned are less fowling but some are saying that they attract moisture. I have never been able to lay my hands of the BM# so I have no experience with that powder.

Like Roundball, I also buy my powder by the case. I get a better price and can have the kind of powder I like which is Goex. Whenall the powder wars are said and done, there are few of them that shoot as well as Goex does in all of my rifles. Granted it might fowl a little more and take more efforts to clean then some of the new powders... OK, I accept this fact. It is not a big deal to me.

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T/C Inctold youcorrect! Your sidelock White Mountain Carbine needs some loose powder to reach under the #11 nipple for proper ignition. Pellets were intended for use with inlines. Very few sidelocks are designed to accept pellets. Aftermarket 209 conversion nipples are available -- without any written guarantees that it will reliably work when needed.

When window-shoppingloose powder substitutes, Pyrodex Por Triple Se7en FFFwould satisfy both of your rifles.