a few things......

elkampmaster- i didnt understand the imho thing i guess. yes, you are entitled to your opinion, and i guess well just have to agree to disagree. truth be known, i have never even rifle hunted for elk, im a bowhunter, but most of my rifle hunting buddies here prefer the .270, and a few the 06. doest seem to me much difference, very similar rifles.
my .270 kicks just like my dads old 30-06, seems like the same rifle.
my whole point was that your opinion just seemed awful closed minded to me, and speaking personally my cousin has killed over 50 elk witha rifle, all with a .270.
havent heard of any getting away form him. i guess me personally, i wouldnt drive anybody away from any type of hunting based on their weapon, unless it was REALLY underpowered. i think that if anything ever gets hunting banned, a big part will be division from within the ranks. if using a .270 will get more people out there, well, we need the numbers, and i believe that is only going to get worse. a .270 will more than adequatly kill an elk, so to me its a non issue, use what ya want.
thats my honest opinion.

i just may be going on a rifle elk hunt this fall, will find out this week. if i do, i wont be using my .270, my hunt wont be real long, and it will be in a trophy area. im not taking any chances. however, if i were hunting elk here where i have time, i would use my .270.

charlie brown- in nevada, you can use a .22 for deer??????????????
now that tops them all.

Yup, .22 caliber centerfire or larger and 1000 ft lbs of energy at 100 yds is what the regs say, go figure.

And I know of a few people who have shot deer with both the .223 and .22-250. I know they had to be shot several times with these guns, but the deer were dead. I have seen one deer shot with a .243, it was a 13 year old girl. That deer was shot once angling away, went into the chest, and into the far shoulder, she ran 50 yards and piled up. That was a small doe, not sure I would want that .243 for anything much larger than that, so I just use my .30-06 and not worry about things.

A few more things....

TeeJay,
I noticed no one gave you the time of day on your posts regarding your 9 year old son using the 30-06 and the 12 gauge and taking game.... Good training, obviously, Good for you (and him)!
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HuntnMuleys,

"Narrow minded" is the way it comes across to you perhaps (and that's okay) but "firm" is how we see it. After too many years of elk hunting involving tracking jobs, lost animals, and diverted hunting time; our group sat down and found the most common denominator to be the "270 and under" rifles people were using. We got to listen from these folks what "laser beam killers" they were with their small bores, that is right up until they asked us to stop our hunting and start their tracking. No problem as of late.

We agreed to the "30-06 and up" rule and as camp master I got the job of enforcing it added to my job description (no problem). Since then, things have been so, so, so much better --- our group hasn't needed to track anything for 5 years and we love it. We harvested 6 elk last year and it was just super to just jump in and start skinning, quartering, loading them into panniers, and hauling instead of crawling thru the dark timber and listening to the excuses.

Regarding kids, IMHO, let'em beat up the deer population with what ever makes their little shoulders happy. Then when they're ready to wield something like a 30-06, then they are probably (repeat probably) ready emotionally, physically, and mentally for all the other "stuff" that comes with an away from home/remote elk hunt in the back country. I'm thinking TeeJay probably introduced his son to the idea of shooting a 30-06 with a bit different story-line about what was going to happen. I'm thinking most parents instill fear over "how to make it work".
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Hunter59,
Congrats on getting your 7mmRemMag. Thanks for "kicking it up a notch" for the elk.
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Treeguyus,
Congrats on getting your 300Mag. Thanks for "kicking it up a notch" for the elk.

a .22 mag for turkeys? hmmmm what ground is this guy standing on?

TeeJay, I was thinking the same thing! Where I hunt turkeys, this would be considered illegal, unethical, immoral, TOO-EASY, and just not right!! It seems his opinions change with the game being hunted.

It's legal, ethical and moral here in Wyoming.

here in wyoming we can take turkeys with a .22 mag and anything bigger. could use a 45/70 of i felt so inclined.
unethical? dont know why it would be. the spirit of this thread is use enough gun

brad

Just trying to make a point here. I didn't intend to lead this thread into another direction, "LOL". I know it is legal in Wyoming to hunt turkeys with rifles, but where I come from, the "spirit" of turkey hunting is to be able to decieve the gobbler by talking hen and calling him in close for a well placed shot with the scatter gun. Certain people on this thread pass judgement on others because they pay for an outfitter, hunt private ranches, hunt land-locked public ground, etc., etc., etc., because this way of harvesting game would be too easy and below his standards. Shooting turkeys with a rifle, in my estimation would fall into the "too-easy category" at minimum. IMO this is how most Easterners would feel about this topic. However, I do not criticize anyone for hunting turkeys in this manner out west. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do! It would not be well recieved in the east. Sorry to lead off the well-beaten path of this thread but I just couldn't help myself.

TeeJay, Hunter_59

Tread lightly there fellas, I wouldn't want you branded as being "idiots" or "stupid" (I know it would just crush ya).
It is an interesting difference in the laws, but legal is legal.
Actually, I kinda like the idea of hunting in an "expeditious" fashion, i.e. lots of advantage to the hunter.
It would be different, but it would work for me. Not in Colorado though.

i hear what your all saying on the rifle for turkey thing, but for me this year. if i used a scattergun, i would have been done my first hunt opening day. been that way 3 years in a row now, and we can only get one tag in wyoming. so i opt for a bow, and try for head shots to prolong season. didnt connect with my bow this year, so since i was pretty much out of time ( i konw our season goes til mid may, i am going bear hunting, then search and rescue stuff, and ill just be too busy), and i wanted some wild turkey i decided to use a rifle. other reasons on that too, this is an OLD swiss army 7.5x55 that i dont have anything to reload with, and only have full metal jackets. the only thing i could legally hunt here in wyoming with those bullets (thats what the game warden told me) was wild turkey. wanted to kill something with that old rifle, so i did. made agreat running shot.

do i feel it was unethical?? no, if i thought only bow or shotgun for turkeys, i would have use a scattergun. the one i shot with the rifle was in easy shotgun range.

man did he taste great
brad