Another interesting point - To let you know how I feel on that subject, I have no problem about shooting rabbits holding in brush. I think just seeing one that is holding in thick brush is hard enough to do! They are using their defenses to the best of their ability. Birds, however, should be flying.

Wolf Killer - got me there, I don't know, I don't like high fences OR bird farms, won't hold it against you!

Let me first address Harvest vs Hunting. Hunting is a person out in the wild using skills and knowledge to take game. Harvesting is a person out in the wild using toys[rangfinders, super high tech stuff] to take game. The difference is one works very hard at being good, while the other is good because of his stuff. I can't afford stuff, so I rely on being good. Now to the ethics part, the problem is time. A lot of people just don't have the time to practice, so they rely on their stuff to get them their game. Is this ethical, yes if it makes for a clean kill. Is it hunting, no not in my opinion.
Gselkhunter

I am a meat harvester. I don't hunt for horns or pictures or bragging right. I take game as fast and clean as I can and stay within the laws for the hunt. I enjoy the outdoors and the companonship of other hunters but I am there for meat. I also get a lot of enjoyment from trying new guns and gear. I am a gun nut even more than a meat harvester. To answer the main question, ethics would be either a harvester or hunter staying within the rules of the game.

Bob, good thread you have started, seems like so far everyone posting pretty much thinks alike and I agree with everyone thus far.

I also believe that hunting and taking animals in enclosures should be defined as two seperate things, however you want to classify them.
To me the ethical hunt,or hunting is not picking an animal from a price list,buying it then shooting it.
To me that should be classified as farming,shopping and killing.

I believe that all animals taken by fairchase,ethical hunters should be considred trophys, antlers,size,etc. is not what constitutes a trophy,the hunt itself is what really counts.

Some of my most memorable hunts were the ones that I worked very hard to get the game.
An example is one year I did not get to hunt much during our 2 week antlered deer season and had not connected.
The last day of the season there was 6 inches of wet snow and still pouring it down.
I cut a track about 8:00 am that I believed was a buck, I tracked and jumped the deer 3 times,but due to the snow hanging on the brush could not get a shot.
At 3:45 about 1/2 hour before the end of the season, after about 5 miles of tracking the deer in a big circle, I finally got a shot and got the deer.
It was a big animal with a nice 4 point on one side and a 3 point gnarly 6 inch snag on the other side, ugly as heck rack.
To me that was my most memorable hunt and although I have taken several beautiful 140 to 160 class deer, that deer is the best trophy I have ever taken,the antlers hang in my den to remind me of my most memorable hunt.

To me that is what hunting is all about,that is what makes it ethical,and that type of hunt is what I consider to be fair chase.
Good hunting
Fairchase Larry, and yes i still think,
Fences and Pens = SLOBS!