Wow, how is this for confusion. Our "Bois D Arc" " Horseapple" trees grow the same apples as mentioned. Heavy, size of grapefruit, green and knobby. Cows eat them. Don't have any horses. But we don't have thorns like stormchzr shows. But we do have a tree that has thorns just exactly like that. Found in low wet areas(semi swamps) I've tried to replant into the yard since the thorns are interesting and not many folks have seen them unless you are out and about a bit.

FWIW Steve McGee that cut my stock said in KS they called that wood Hedge also. But it may not be exactly the same.

Green BDA won't do a chain too bad. Now cutting the trunk into a stock blank after 2 years drying and it turning from yellow(wet) to brown(seasoned) is another story. The Stihl and its sharp chain were not happy. But we do have corner posts from BDA that we know from early survey calls are appx 85 years old. Pulled them to rebuild fence. Cut off about 6 inches of rot at the bottom and reseated. Never mind not ever getting a staple into the post.

Funny how things are the same yet differ. And probably due to misinformation.

Jeff

This is a very interesting thread.

Dan O.

hedge posts will be holding fence long after metal posts "rot"

Good price on SAWTOOTH OAKS at Cold Stream Farms: www.coldstreamfarm.net

Anyone have experiences with PERSIMMON? I hear deer lover them & they are easy to grow if you are in the correct Zone.

same horseapple fruit as on our BDA trees. But no thorns on the trees. Well a few but nothing like those huge ones. And I talked with a survey buddy. We found those huge thorns in the bottoms when surveying but he never recalls them being a BDA or having any type of fruit at any point in the year.

Now I wished my lab hadn't decided it was fun to chew up the last thorn tree I'd transplanted.......... It would have had some size by now.

Jeff

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Ok Next!! The large persimmon picture(BTW way thank you all I'm learning extremely fast....) is what we have in the garden for mom. The small orange ones(you did have a picture of that right- about golf ball size) were "wild" But then in what we call the TX hill country they wild ones are mostly bushes with slick bark and the persimmons start a bit smaller than a golf ball mostly and are green and then turn dark purple as they ripen. Do I have a conflict of names again??? I know the deer go a long way as do hogs to find these dark persimmons.

Jeff

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I've got a variety called "Early Golden" growing on my farm near Niagara Falls. It ripens and starts dropping nicely around the beginning of October. My seedlings don't start dropping until November in a warm year.

Dan O.

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