A word of caution do not drown your trees with 60 days of water. At least not for the first couple of years. I planted some sawtooth oaks in a flood plain and they were doing OK the first year. Last year we had some one-hundred year floods and they died within a month of being soaked with water. I almost cried!! I lost about 50 trees; it's a good thing that the CREP paid for them.

here's a sawtooth oak leaf:



kansas forest service has conservation seedlings available: http://www.kansasforests.org/conservation/index.shtml

i'm ordering 100 sawtooth oaks to replace all the thorny-az osage orange and locust trees i cut last summer. k.f.s. didn't have any gobbler sawtooths available, so i'll probably wait till next year. are there any differences between the two besides acorn size?

i'm still not sure what oak seedlings to plant in the area i'd like to eventually flood in the late fall for waterfowl habitat. after doing a little research, i've decided gobbler sawtooths might not be the best candidate. i'm willing to wait 8-9 yrs before i begin annual fall flooding to allow the trees time to become established and produce mast ---- BUT i don't want to wait for more than a decade!

Baras, reported wood ducks preference for willow oak mast ( http://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/prodabs/ab0...nski%20JWM.pdf ). willow oak is a fast growing oak and is classified as a facultative wetland — usually found in wetlands, 67-99%.

pin oaks are abundant in my area, especially in the floodplains in close proximity to rivers. my first duck hunts as a child took place in flooded pin oaks, so i know they will survive annual flooding. they grow rapidly, but can take 15-20 years before producing acorns..

nuttall oak, cherrybark oak, and swamp water oak are also possibilities for wetland plantings, but i'll need to do some more research.

helpful links:
http://www.mldda.org/wetlandbankattachment3.htm
http://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/

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I see Sawtooth oaks are the popular one... What is the advantage of the sawtooth oak over other oaks???

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Early Riser is dead on. Join Quality Deer Management Assocation $25 well spent plus discounts on all trees, plots etc. Up here in the Northeast and Mid-atlantic region we do well with sawtooth and gobbler sawtooth oak. Good luck! Try to make a year long calendar for habitat improvements. ex. Jan. while forest is thin do clear-cut. Leave stump as this produce limb suckers, which equals winter browse. Feb. Brush piles for small game. March lime plots. keep it simple. do something different each month and you will notice different things about the outdoors. Just being there is why I continue. Try trail cameras (a cheap one will do. Under $80 cabelas.) you will be surprised at whats out there.

Early-- Have to hunt on public land. Which makes planting questionable. But can you get those crapapple seeds somehow. IE if I put out 1000 seeds here and there vs 100 trees.. Does anyone even offer saplings?

Jeff

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Early

First, thank you for your valuable time to help inform me. I've finally got the number of the local wildlife biologist to help me too.

I understand about seeding the apples now. Seems fair enough.

Are they available as small trees or is it like the wild plums here at home. They are wild and you can't buy stock.

Sawtooth I'll be working on seeding AND pruning/fertilizing what I find.

THanks, Jeff

EarlyRiser see you are a writer to by the disclaimer. Like you work.
Keep it simple! WW