ORIGINAL: early riser

Jeff, I would guess it wouldn't be worth your while to try to seed such wild apples. It's taken Mother Nature YEARS for these trees to grow and spread naturally, and from what I understand, they must be scarrifed or passed through and animals digestive system for the acids and heat to work the seed to where it would even germinate. There's ways of doing this naturally with scratching and hot water etc, but then there's years for a seed to ever get to any size to grow a strong tree to produce and bear. Seeding apples is not a good way of producing trees. Good fruit trees are planted from grafted stock and can produce in only a couple years this way. No telling how many years it's taken Mother Nature for these wild apples to be spread and flourish naturally in the woods of the south.

You can however have good results by drop seeding, or potting Sawtooth Oaks. That'swhy they are so prized because of their FAST growth and early mast production.

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