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Old 09-29-2003 | 04:17 PM
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i planted some imperial clover this spring i didnt come up very high its almost like a ground cover but it is really think. i was told it should grom higher next year. but the problem is i have tone of thistles in the clover is there any way to kill them and not the clover? or what should i do?
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Old 09-29-2003 | 05:22 PM
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Mowing will kill thistles after a couple times - get them before theyseed out.

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Old 09-30-2003 | 08:04 AM
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FH is right. Did you put an exclusion basket in the clover? It has been our experience that if the IWC is covering the ground but does not appear to be growing it is being eaten as it grows. Diod you do a soil sample and lime and fertilize? Have you had the proper rain?
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Old 09-30-2003 | 11:23 AM
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havent had much rain i dind tput out a basket(dumb mistake) but i see alot of deer in it so i figured that was the case the ph is 6.5 i think it is really going to take off next spring now i just need to get rid of the thistles i hope they havent gone to sead yet.
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Old 10-01-2003 | 08:08 AM
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At a pH of 6.5 your at the bottom edge for the IWC. we would suggest that you lime 1-2 tons an acre now... or hit the field with some liquid lime.
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Old 10-06-2003 | 11:22 PM
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ok i will try to lime it thanks for the help guys i am going to cut it in the am hope im not to late its a reel small patch so if they went to seed i will just plow it up and try again maybe.
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Old 10-08-2003 | 07:00 PM
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Pup - thistle control will depend on the type of thistle you have. I have bull thistle, an annual that is easily controlled by roundup in the hedge rows and mowing in the fields (just don' t let it go to seed). I have a neighbor who lets it go to seed, so I keep an eye out for it wherever it pops up.
Canada thistle is a perennial that need a lot more effort and persistence to control. I did kill off a clover field ~5 years ago in a successful effort to eliminate the Canada thistle in it. Unfortunately, the thistle had escaped to nearby afalfa and chicory fields. There I' ve spot sprayed in an effort to minimize crop damage, but have just about given up - I find patches every year. I tried Plateau a few years in the chicory field, but all it did was supress the thistle. This fall, I replanted the alfalfa field in winter wheat after burning the field down 3x' s with roundup. I hit the Canada thistle with roundup in the chicory field whenever the plants got near the bloom stage, and may yet re-plant it next year. I think you too will have to cut down the trees to save the forest (kill off the clover field). I dug out a few websites on Canada thistle fyi:
chemical control: http://www.neweed.org/weeds/weeds.html
organic control: http://www.truehealth.org/acanthis.html

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Old 10-09-2003 | 10:58 AM
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2-4D works on thistles & dosen' t kill grass like round-up does. Once they get started it is a constant battle to keep them at bay. Especially if your neighbors don' t try to kill them.
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Old 10-26-2003 | 12:10 PM
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Get a spot place that doesn' t have thistles.
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