scouting cameras???
#11
ORIGINAL: Mottz
I vote for the moultries also. Great pictures and dependable. My batteries last a month or so but I check them every week or two. Not to start a scuffle here or anything but I don't understand, and I read this from a lot of people, is why a person wouldn't check their camera for so long a time. My purpose of a camera is pictures yeah, but is to find where the most travel of bigger bucks is at so that I can determine a stand site. If I were to wait 5 months before checking, then most of the past activity would be useless. I like seeing what is on my property,watch them develop and try to strategize. Maybe I'm wrong ?
I vote for the moultries also. Great pictures and dependable. My batteries last a month or so but I check them every week or two. Not to start a scuffle here or anything but I don't understand, and I read this from a lot of people, is why a person wouldn't check their camera for so long a time. My purpose of a camera is pictures yeah, but is to find where the most travel of bigger bucks is at so that I can determine a stand site. If I were to wait 5 months before checking, then most of the past activity would be useless. I like seeing what is on my property,watch them develop and try to strategize. Maybe I'm wrong ?
#12
Thanks HV. To elaborate a little more on why I move mine often is you have to realize also that a camera only points 1 direction. There are sometimes that I'll even turn mine facing the other way on the same tree. How many deer are actually walking right behind the camera or 5 feet to the side and not getting picked up by the motion sensor?
#13
Fork Horn
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 451
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From: Kansas
i understand exactly what you are talking about "moltz," i use mine as a scouting tool too. i have 2 separate cameras running all the time, i move them around when i can and i target certain spots to see if i should be hunting it. the one thing i worry about in using a trail cam is breaking my rules when it comes to whitetails. the one thing that will make a boon and crocket buck come out during the day is if he doesn't think he is being hunted. people who put out trial cams and go into the woods all summer and fall getting excited about what they are seeing anxiously sprinting out again to check it the next time are in fact demeaning the purpose for having a trail cam out in the first place. i tell the people i guide that i religiously believe and tell my self that every time i go into the woods that that is one less booner coming out during daylight hours. i always give myself 1 year to screw up an area, the first year i scout the hell out of the place chasing bucks out of their beds laying out cameras and feeders just to find out what is there and to place stands in the proper locations. after that first bumper year i get out and never return except the few times i hunt a stand and to plant a food plot.
just an example that taught me this... i have some big pieces of land that i hunt and do alright on but my best place to hunt by far is a tiny 5-10 acre piece of bedding timber on a hill over a crop field. the neighboring land is vast thick timber on which a bunch of hunters pay a hefty lease to control. by watching them from over the fence they don't do much right by showing up at the wrong times and constantly hunting it. all the bucks have patterened the other hunters and through out the year the bucks won't show up on their land during day. my tiny little piece of land on the side of all that keeps all the bucks, which will stand up and freely walk around at any time. as far as i know i have seen 4 separate bucks over 140 last year, i shot one and saw 3 others this year, not counting the 90" single side shed. i am trying to get to the point here which is that i never go into that land but 1 or 2 times a year even if i come close but don't kill. untouched deer land is a haven for big older buck they know where they smelled you and where to avoid you. for a extemely long explanation that is why i don't check my trail cams that often. i don't mean to say you are doing anything wrong, but by going in so often you do hurt you chances to kill the bigger bucks.
just an example that taught me this... i have some big pieces of land that i hunt and do alright on but my best place to hunt by far is a tiny 5-10 acre piece of bedding timber on a hill over a crop field. the neighboring land is vast thick timber on which a bunch of hunters pay a hefty lease to control. by watching them from over the fence they don't do much right by showing up at the wrong times and constantly hunting it. all the bucks have patterened the other hunters and through out the year the bucks won't show up on their land during day. my tiny little piece of land on the side of all that keeps all the bucks, which will stand up and freely walk around at any time. as far as i know i have seen 4 separate bucks over 140 last year, i shot one and saw 3 others this year, not counting the 90" single side shed. i am trying to get to the point here which is that i never go into that land but 1 or 2 times a year even if i come close but don't kill. untouched deer land is a haven for big older buck they know where they smelled you and where to avoid you. for a extemely long explanation that is why i don't check my trail cams that often. i don't mean to say you are doing anything wrong, but by going in so often you do hurt you chances to kill the bigger bucks.
#14
Well, alot of it vmartin, is I 90% of the time do not go into the thick of the woods. When I hunt in the spring for turkeys I seriously walk around finding trails ,rubs, beds and so on. Mainly trying to focus on where the entrances and exits into the trees from the crop fields are at. Ten feet in or so is where I'll place the camera. It's real easy right now telling these spots cause the crops are still low, but the grasses on the edges are tall. Makes for a distinct travel route. So normally I don't even exit the crops by very far, thus keeping me out of the heart of the woods. I can't really say that I spook to many deer. Guessing I may but thats part of it. To tell ya the truth I'm hoping to find their staging areas that they hang out in before heading to the fields. Thats where I want my stand.
#15
Fork Horn
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Kansas
again thanks for the reply mottz, i am not trying to say what i do is better than what you do. i like to get a conversation started where i can listen to your strategy and compare it to what i have learned in the past to see if it would possibly add to my ever growing bag of tricks.
ya, i go to great lenghts to not step on a trail or ever come within 20 yards of an identified rub or scrape too. i have sat in my tree stands and watched a good buck once come across the one spot i walked across the trail and a single tall blade of grass brushed my pants leg. the buck stopped dead in his tracks sniffed the blade, and spin a 180 to quickly return the way he came to never be seen again. i have seen similar situations go down like this one which led me to make the decision to leave the deer alone all year till they are suddenly being hunted. i saw a dramatic improvement the first year out, it makes it hard cause i always want to be out there, scouting and taking pictures.
i do have stands in all locations in the woods, but some i don't ever hit for a couple years due to their location, i leave the bedding areas alone completely on some grounds but others i use them as a last resort to try and shoot that buck in the middle of the day when he stands up to stretch or quickly browse.
ya, i go to great lenghts to not step on a trail or ever come within 20 yards of an identified rub or scrape too. i have sat in my tree stands and watched a good buck once come across the one spot i walked across the trail and a single tall blade of grass brushed my pants leg. the buck stopped dead in his tracks sniffed the blade, and spin a 180 to quickly return the way he came to never be seen again. i have seen similar situations go down like this one which led me to make the decision to leave the deer alone all year till they are suddenly being hunted. i saw a dramatic improvement the first year out, it makes it hard cause i always want to be out there, scouting and taking pictures.
i do have stands in all locations in the woods, but some i don't ever hit for a couple years due to their location, i leave the bedding areas alone completely on some grounds but others i use them as a last resort to try and shoot that buck in the middle of the day when he stands up to stretch or quickly browse.
#17
Joined: Apr 2008
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Moultrie is by far the best. The new series cameras i40 m40 d40 etc have very long battery life compared to previous models. Found a great package deal on Moultries.
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#18
Joined: Apr 2008
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