How honest are we?
09-19-2002, 07:08 PM
#31
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 3,903
RE: How honest are we?
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Hey I looked in the mirror and besides the pounds I have put on as I got older, I am happy what I see. I too answered honestly, I would not shoot the deer and I would rat on a guy who did. Who cares if this situation is real or would ever be applicable to you, you still took 2 deer in one day and that is not allowed. What would you call it?
I honestly don't think your a poacher, Bowfanatic. I have been around here for awhile and have seen your thoughts. I know what your saying and it does make us think!
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Thank you! I'm not a poacher in my eyes or my buddies eyes , but for some around here , I would be labeled one. If I got some of you to think about "the poacher" label , hunting ethics combined with hunting law and human ethics , thats whats important to me. I think we have a great bunch of folks around here , but alot of times , most would fear giving an honest answer because of the attacks and being labeled a poacher instead of a hunter.
In all reality , I'd love to say , I'd let him walk. But when I read the thread , the first thing that came to mind was , wow , you can shoot a deer per day (that told me that there must be a population problem). Then the kicker was "a buck of a lifetime"! Well , the first thing that popped in my mind was a picture of heart attack (he was one huge non typical that lived on a ranch) , those that know what buck I'm talking about can relate<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> Given that scenario , it would be much easier for me to say I'd let him walk , but in reality , I'd probably shoot three feet over his head from shaking so bad , and if that didn't scare him away , the smell coming from my pants would<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Good luck to everyone this year! And BE SAFE!!!
"Nocked,cocked & ready to rock"
Hey I looked in the mirror and besides the pounds I have put on as I got older, I am happy what I see. I too answered honestly, I would not shoot the deer and I would rat on a guy who did. Who cares if this situation is real or would ever be applicable to you, you still took 2 deer in one day and that is not allowed. What would you call it?
I honestly don't think your a poacher, Bowfanatic. I have been around here for awhile and have seen your thoughts. I know what your saying and it does make us think!
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Thank you! I'm not a poacher in my eyes or my buddies eyes , but for some around here , I would be labeled one. If I got some of you to think about "the poacher" label , hunting ethics combined with hunting law and human ethics , thats whats important to me. I think we have a great bunch of folks around here , but alot of times , most would fear giving an honest answer because of the attacks and being labeled a poacher instead of a hunter.
In all reality , I'd love to say , I'd let him walk. But when I read the thread , the first thing that came to mind was , wow , you can shoot a deer per day (that told me that there must be a population problem). Then the kicker was "a buck of a lifetime"! Well , the first thing that popped in my mind was a picture of heart attack (he was one huge non typical that lived on a ranch) , those that know what buck I'm talking about can relate<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> Given that scenario , it would be much easier for me to say I'd let him walk , but in reality , I'd probably shoot three feet over his head from shaking so bad , and if that didn't scare him away , the smell coming from my pants would<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Good luck to everyone this year! And BE SAFE!!!
"Nocked,cocked & ready to rock"
09-19-2002, 08:38 PM
#32
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Port Neches, Texas
Posts: 5,514
RE: How honest are we?
In all my years of deer hunting, I have never seen a Game Warden in the woods! I am convinced that I could get away with just about anything I wanted to do!
That being said, I will not knowingly break any game laws. Have I in the past? Yes, in my teen years and maybe a time or two out of ignorance! I know that "ignorance of the law is no excuse" and I won't try to justify my actions with that excuse.
Even back then I did not make a "habit" of breaking game laws.
As I got a little older and (hopefully) a little wiser, I came to the point where worrying about getting caught, made me have no fun in trying to break the laws!
As I said before I have had the chance to take an illegal trophy, but passed! I could not see any pride in taking an illegal trophy!
As the old saying goes "to thine own self be true!"
And Bowfanatic, I could imagine what the Game Warden would think of your "kill 2 today and take tommorrow off" philosophy!
You don't seem to like the label of "poacher," and I am not saying that you are a poacher! However, if you were to do something illegal, and got caught at it, then that is exactly what you would be! A poacher! If it ended up in the local paper, or public records, you would forever be known to your friends and family as a poacher! You could also lose your hunting equipment and hunting rights too!
To me, its just not worth it!
Its not worth it to my concious, even if I don't get caught, as I said, there is no pride in dishonesty!
That being said, I will not knowingly break any game laws. Have I in the past? Yes, in my teen years and maybe a time or two out of ignorance! I know that "ignorance of the law is no excuse" and I won't try to justify my actions with that excuse.
Even back then I did not make a "habit" of breaking game laws.
As I got a little older and (hopefully) a little wiser, I came to the point where worrying about getting caught, made me have no fun in trying to break the laws!
As I said before I have had the chance to take an illegal trophy, but passed! I could not see any pride in taking an illegal trophy!
As the old saying goes "to thine own self be true!"
And Bowfanatic, I could imagine what the Game Warden would think of your "kill 2 today and take tommorrow off" philosophy!
You don't seem to like the label of "poacher," and I am not saying that you are a poacher! However, if you were to do something illegal, and got caught at it, then that is exactly what you would be! A poacher! If it ended up in the local paper, or public records, you would forever be known to your friends and family as a poacher! You could also lose your hunting equipment and hunting rights too!
To me, its just not worth it!
Its not worth it to my concious, even if I don't get caught, as I said, there is no pride in dishonesty!
09-19-2002, 10:47 PM
#33
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Saskatchewan Canada
Posts: 6,921
RE: How honest are we?
Here's a personal story on not ever seeing a game warden or think the chances of getting caught are nill. Where I hunt during rifle, I never see GW's, I mean never. 2 years ago, I decided to stay a little longer in one of my evening spot, it is a large alfla field, that bottlenecks to bush. Their is a little used trail that i park on and you can see most of the field from. Anyway to the point, it was legal and the deer were on the move into the field, I decided to unload and just watch...cause I knew a good buck was in the area. Well about 25 minutes later, I was just getting ready to head out and he appeared on the fields edge. A mere 125 yards away, I could see with my naked eye he was the "once in a Lifetime" type buck. I did scope him for a couple of minutes as he pushed does around searching for some love, I even reached for my clip....but I never put it in. It wasn't dark but it was well past legal, as the deer made his way off, I left. Upon arrival at my truck but who do you think was sitting their with Bino's but the invisible GW. We chatted, checked my truck, license, weapon and just as he left he said "Oh did you happen to see that buck in the field", I paused and said yeap. He smiled and said good luck, I hope you get him. Well boys I never saw him again and it was the hardest decision I have ever made. My ideas of a trophy are taking any animal on their turf/terms and by the book. You never know, when the GW will be around the bend. In there eyes the law is the law and if you break it you are going to pay...not only will you lose your hunting rights, equipment, but also that head that made you say ah what the hell. Really is it worth it?
I know this situation is not going to happen as posted, but the chance that you shoot a lesser deer and a bigger buck presents himself....does! So be prepared to follow through with what you are stating and if it is nobody will know...then also be prepared to be caught and labeled a Poacher. Cause then the shoe will fit!
Wish you all a great and safe season!
I know this situation is not going to happen as posted, but the chance that you shoot a lesser deer and a bigger buck presents himself....does! So be prepared to follow through with what you are stating and if it is nobody will know...then also be prepared to be caught and labeled a Poacher. Cause then the shoe will fit!
Wish you all a great and safe season!
