How honest are we?
#11
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Central IN
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RE: How honest are we?
I think I know how I would react if the buck of a lifetime showed up. First, I would probably soil myself, then I probably have a discussion with myself to figure out if I was seeing things or not, then I'd probably get light headed, then soil myself again, and by that time he would be long gone. See, I wouldn't even have to worry about doing the right thing!
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#12
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ponce de Leon Florida USA
Posts: 10,079
RE: How honest are we?
I'm going to be honest, I would probably shoot the second buck. We have a very liberal, 2 a day all 76 day season limit. One of which is suppose to be a doe, but with too many deer anyway it wouldn't hurt the population.
#13
RE: How honest are we?
I would not shoot the buck! I may kick myself for not being more selective but, that's just how it goes!
In Texas we don't have a deer a day limit, but I had a situation a few years back that I had used my buck tags and was doe hunting. The biggest buck I've ever had in shooting range came out and worked several scrapes. I could have easily shot him and a buddy of mine that was hunting on another stand could have tagged him. That would have been illegal, I did not do it then and would not do it now!
Though I have never been checked by a Game Warden while hunting, and know that I could get away with it, my conscious would not allow me to look at an illegal trophy in my den for the rest of my life!
In Texas we don't have a deer a day limit, but I had a situation a few years back that I had used my buck tags and was doe hunting. The biggest buck I've ever had in shooting range came out and worked several scrapes. I could have easily shot him and a buddy of mine that was hunting on another stand could have tagged him. That would have been illegal, I did not do it then and would not do it now!
Though I have never been checked by a Game Warden while hunting, and know that I could get away with it, my conscious would not allow me to look at an illegal trophy in my den for the rest of my life!
#14
RE: How honest are we?
well if I had shot a buck in my stand it would have been nice cuz i let the smaller ones walk, but if I was walking to the truck and ole mossy horns stepped out, and didnt bust me, and I was able to get a shot off, I would take that shot in a heartbeat. Ive had monsters step out on me plenty of times. not with a dead deer laying back in the woods but if that situation happen I would take it. and ol pops with the lifetime senior citizen license would have bagged one that day also. just being honest......If we arent honest how can we look at other topics without wondering if its true or not... no worries here
Edited by - smokyghost on 09/18/2002 19:42:07
Edited by - smokyghost on 09/18/2002 19:42:07
#15
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Go DAWGS! Georgia...
Posts: 583
RE: How honest are we?
We all need to do our part as responsible hunters. We are conservation! If there is a law then we need to follow it. DNR does alot of research and has a good idea of how many deer should be harvested every year. Deer populations are in most states pretty good however, it's like saying it was just one can I threw out of the window. If there is another one million people saying the say things as they too throw the can out side of the car window. It all adds up!
We need to be all responsible and yes "HONEST"
Get out and scout months before season and look for the big one, prepare, learn about game management and use your smarts. It's hunting.
Keep hunting and the great outdoors alive!
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 3,903
RE: How honest are we?
But in this scenario , you can shoot a deer every day , which tells me the DNR is saying the population is way too high. If I shoot both deer on thursday , I'll take friday off and head out on saturday. Would that be o.k.?
I really get a kick out of those that preach hunting ethics with "it's the law". If your going to confuse hunting ethics with the written laws , I'll ask you a simple question. Are you an ethical person?(not hunter) Do you follow every law to the T?
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I really get a kick out of those that preach hunting ethics with "it's the law". If your going to confuse hunting ethics with the written laws , I'll ask you a simple question. Are you an ethical person?(not hunter) Do you follow every law to the T?
"Nocked,cocked & ready to rock"
#17
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Central IN
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RE: How honest are we?
And what I get a kick out of is those who ask others if they "follow every other law", so they can justify their own personal choice to not follow the hunting laws, or poach.
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#18
RE: How honest are we?
Well, my honest answer. Where I hunt if I shot the 2nd buck, the chance of me getting caught would be slim to none(That's the truth). But I would not shoot the buck. If it was 3 years ago, then I probably would, because I would be too dumb to say no.
But the first deer I ever shot was an average 8 point buck with a rifle. I was at the top of a hill while my grandpa was running some deer right towards me. The first deer was that 8 point buck so I shot it, then right behind it came a doe and then a big 10 point buck. Being the most axious kid in he world to get a big buck I still didn't pull the trigger buck let him run broadside at 15 yards. It took a lot but I'm glad I done it. Besides I was happy enough with my first deer, even though I wasn't even for sure I made a kill shot because he was still running.
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But the first deer I ever shot was an average 8 point buck with a rifle. I was at the top of a hill while my grandpa was running some deer right towards me. The first deer was that 8 point buck so I shot it, then right behind it came a doe and then a big 10 point buck. Being the most axious kid in he world to get a big buck I still didn't pull the trigger buck let him run broadside at 15 yards. It took a lot but I'm glad I done it. Besides I was happy enough with my first deer, even though I wasn't even for sure I made a kill shot because he was still running.
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#19
RE: How honest are we?
Nobody follows every law to the T, just not possible. Like said prior, this can't be used as justification for your actions. If you get caught the DNR won't say well your right son, I actually ran a red this morning on my way to the field...go and thanks for the tip! Whether you get caught has no implications to the decision either, getting away with a crime does not make it legal or OK. In this scenario you have the opportunity to take 1 buck a day, you chose to take the first one and should smile and say maybe tomorrow we can dance to the second. Would I shoot the 2nd, well obviously not. If my buddy it did, I would turn him in b/c straight up he is a POACHER.
I can say without remorse, poaching is the one thing that makes my blood boil. But what is worse is the guy who is a hunter and then thinks its ok to bend the rules, b/c for the most part he does it by the book. Still a poacher!!
I would like to think some of these comments where made to raise a brow or get some interesting posts, cause if not I have some serious questions about us "HUNTERS"<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>
I can say without remorse, poaching is the one thing that makes my blood boil. But what is worse is the guy who is a hunter and then thinks its ok to bend the rules, b/c for the most part he does it by the book. Still a poacher!!
I would like to think some of these comments where made to raise a brow or get some interesting posts, cause if not I have some serious questions about us "HUNTERS"<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 3,903
RE: How honest are we?
Darn right I'm trying to raise some eyebrows!
Let's not just compare it to running a red light (which by the way , when running a red , your putting someone elses life in danger) lets compare it to driving under the influence. I'd bet just about everyone here has gotten behind the wheel after having a few drinks<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> Well , guess what , it's not only illegal but it's probably the most irresponsible unethical thing someone can do. Did I get your attention? GOOD! It's funny how some will frown on others and say "even if it was my buddy , I'd turn him in" for shooting an animal , but you wouldn't bat an eye to jump behind the wheel of a car after a few drinks<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> Yeah , I know , I'm gonna get replies now from those who will say they NEVER drive , even after three drinks. If your being honest , then KUDOS to you , this thread is about honesty afterall.
Let me clarify something here. This thread was about hunting in a state where you could shoot a deer every day. I answered honestly , what I would do if I were in that position. In my state , it never could have happened. We have to tag the animal before even field dressing it , so on my way back to the truck , not only would my weapon have been unloaded , but my tag would have already been filled and I'm sure as heck not gonna shoot "the buck of a lifetime" for someone elses tag.
Lets talk a little more about "bending" the rules. Game regulations also state what time hunting hours begin and end and in most states your weapon must be cased anytime in between open hours. When closing time is 6:29 pm , I'll bet ya'll check your watch and climb down from your stand at 6:29 pm , right? Here's my honest answer , I climb down when I cant see thru my peep good enough to feel 100% sure I can put my arrow where I want , which normally is a good 15 - 30 minutes beyond regulations and I personally dont know a bowhunter who doesn't do the same.
BTW , I cant stand poachers either! If I get labeled a poacher here for giving an honest answer to the above scenario , I'll get over it , but some of you fellas better take a hard look in the mirror before slapping a label on anybody.
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Let's not just compare it to running a red light (which by the way , when running a red , your putting someone elses life in danger) lets compare it to driving under the influence. I'd bet just about everyone here has gotten behind the wheel after having a few drinks<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> Well , guess what , it's not only illegal but it's probably the most irresponsible unethical thing someone can do. Did I get your attention? GOOD! It's funny how some will frown on others and say "even if it was my buddy , I'd turn him in" for shooting an animal , but you wouldn't bat an eye to jump behind the wheel of a car after a few drinks<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> Yeah , I know , I'm gonna get replies now from those who will say they NEVER drive , even after three drinks. If your being honest , then KUDOS to you , this thread is about honesty afterall.
Let me clarify something here. This thread was about hunting in a state where you could shoot a deer every day. I answered honestly , what I would do if I were in that position. In my state , it never could have happened. We have to tag the animal before even field dressing it , so on my way back to the truck , not only would my weapon have been unloaded , but my tag would have already been filled and I'm sure as heck not gonna shoot "the buck of a lifetime" for someone elses tag.
Lets talk a little more about "bending" the rules. Game regulations also state what time hunting hours begin and end and in most states your weapon must be cased anytime in between open hours. When closing time is 6:29 pm , I'll bet ya'll check your watch and climb down from your stand at 6:29 pm , right? Here's my honest answer , I climb down when I cant see thru my peep good enough to feel 100% sure I can put my arrow where I want , which normally is a good 15 - 30 minutes beyond regulations and I personally dont know a bowhunter who doesn't do the same.
BTW , I cant stand poachers either! If I get labeled a poacher here for giving an honest answer to the above scenario , I'll get over it , but some of you fellas better take a hard look in the mirror before slapping a label on anybody.
"Nocked,cocked & ready to rock"