Take a look at this!!!
05-05-2005 | 04:48 PM
#11
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RE: Take a look at this!!!
ORIGINAL: jeg3455
I used to do the same thing till I found out that those big mama's will run my little bucks off of my food sources, now I take those big mama's and let the little ones feed.
ORIGINAL: max the dog
Does are a different story, I let the big mama's pass so I can shoot their veal daughters. That's good eatin.
Does are a different story, I let the big mama's pass so I can shoot their veal daughters. That's good eatin.
I used to do the same thing till I found out that those big mama's will run my little bucks off of my food sources, now I take those big mama's and let the little ones feed.
I'm also reminded of a doe I've been seing for the past few years who's been bearing twins season after season. She's an old girl who knows how to keep her fawns alive. Bucks will walk right past her young doe fawns to breed her even if all of them are in season at the same time.
05-05-2005 | 06:19 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Take a look at this!!!
there are too many does in kentucky last year i just held out for any buck. and i was successful. it was my first deer. but i'm not that descriminative. but does are fair game this coming year.
05-05-2005 | 08:10 PM
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RE: Take a look at this!!!
120" minimum. I strictly followed it last year, passing up alot of basket racks and alot of 8 pointers with 15" spreads. it was tough at times, but i felt satisfaction in it. i dont go shooting anything the last day because that's showing no restraint whatsoever. I really don't have a ton of respect for people who do this and say they practice QDM.
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05-05-2005 | 08:13 PM
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RE: Take a look at this!!!
ORIGINAL: max the dog
That may be true but big mama's aren't scaring off the big bucks. They attract them. The little does aren't very good breeders like the big does are. I read somewhere a few years ago about a study where for every year a doe is old her fawn mortality drops in half. That means a 2 year old doe looses half the fawns that a 1 year old doe will and a 3 year old does looses even less.
I'm also reminded of a doe I've been seing for the past few years who's been bearing twins season after season. She's an old girl who knows how to keep her fawns alive. Bucks will walk right past her young doe fawns to breed her even if all of them are in season at the same time.
ORIGINAL: jeg3455
I used to do the same thing till I found out that those big mama's will run my little bucks off of my food sources, now I take those big mama's and let the little ones feed.
ORIGINAL: max the dog
Does are a different story, I let the big mama's pass so I can shoot their veal daughters. That's good eatin.
Does are a different story, I let the big mama's pass so I can shoot their veal daughters. That's good eatin.
I used to do the same thing till I found out that those big mama's will run my little bucks off of my food sources, now I take those big mama's and let the little ones feed.
I'm also reminded of a doe I've been seing for the past few years who's been bearing twins season after season. She's an old girl who knows how to keep her fawns alive. Bucks will walk right past her young doe fawns to breed her even if all of them are in season at the same time.
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05-05-2005 | 08:40 PM
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From: Harford Co. Maryland
RE: Take a look at this!!!
And the chance of you being able to tell if the doe is in heat or not is slim to none.
05-06-2005 | 11:57 AM
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Fork Horn
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From: Forney, TX
RE: Take a look at this!!!
ORIGINAL: max the dog
That may be true but big mama's aren't scaring off the big bucks. They attract them. The little does aren't very good breeders like the big does are. I read somewhere a few years ago about a study where for every year a doe is old her fawn mortality drops in half. That means a 2 year old doe looses half the fawns that a 1 year old doe will and a 3 year old does looses even less.
I'm also reminded of a doe I've been seing for the past few years who's been bearing twins season after season. She's an old girl who knows how to keep her fawns alive. Bucks will walk right past her young doe fawns to breed her even if all of them are in season at the same time.
That may be true but big mama's aren't scaring off the big bucks. They attract them. The little does aren't very good breeders like the big does are. I read somewhere a few years ago about a study where for every year a doe is old her fawn mortality drops in half. That means a 2 year old doe looses half the fawns that a 1 year old doe will and a 3 year old does looses even less.
I'm also reminded of a doe I've been seing for the past few years who's been bearing twins season after season. She's an old girl who knows how to keep her fawns alive. Bucks will walk right past her young doe fawns to breed her even if all of them are in season at the same time.
05-06-2005 | 12:02 PM
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Fork Horn
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From: Forney, TX
RE: Take a look at this!!!
ORIGINAL: Deerslayer_37
I extremely highly doubt taking out your "big mamas" is going to keep the little bucks on the field. i've witnessed the same behavior, and i honestly don't think it matters much. We try to remove mostly older does, as they're the ones that have triplets and twins to keep the population higher. we do take younger does for meat, as they taste great. And for sure bucks are not discrminatory as far as does. They dont have that capacity to think on that level. It's extremely doubtful that an older doe with twin fawns would all be in heat at the same time. And the chance of you being able to tell if the doe is in heat or not is slim to none.
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I extremely highly doubt taking out your "big mamas" is going to keep the little bucks on the field. i've witnessed the same behavior, and i honestly don't think it matters much. We try to remove mostly older does, as they're the ones that have triplets and twins to keep the population higher. we do take younger does for meat, as they taste great. And for sure bucks are not discrminatory as far as does. They dont have that capacity to think on that level. It's extremely doubtful that an older doe with twin fawns would all be in heat at the same time. And the chance of you being able to tell if the doe is in heat or not is slim to none.
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