killer243

i just got looking at my Outdoor Life mag. one of the articles was "it's wounded now what?"

i have never read something so wrong in a hunting mag. ever in my life and i am disgusted! to sum it up it tells the hunter if he thinks he made a bad shot "get on the trail as quickly as possible." what the hell? if your shot is bad you give the animal plenty of time to bed down! one of his stories tell about how he killed his largest buck ever. "my guide and i took to his trail which was marked by sparse blood. snoe helped us stay on his trail for three hours. most of the time trotting. we jumped him several times. we hung in the buttom line is that buck, my biggest ever, literally ran out of bllod because we pursed him so intently and allowed him no time to lay down and rest. where was he hit? sit down and read this twice in the KNEE" but that isn't the bad part in the acticle

"never let the deer lay over night. it dosen't matter where it is try and track it all night long if you have to, meat will begin to spoil after the animal is dead for more the 1 hr... if you find bits of digested food in the blood your following a gut shot animal. give it an half hour and get on that trail and cover as much ground as you can as fast as you can"

now their is more to this story but i am getting tired of writing it down. but am i crazy or dose everyone else think this guy is giving out terriable advise? i couldn't believe they let it be published! it is like a list of things of what NOT to do


sorry this is so long however i think it is worth reading

Allseasonhunter7

ik people who wont get it for 20 + hrs
whatever....

Deerslayer_37

is it just me or did somebody get a little excited and hit the delete post key a few times? I could really use a reason on this one, im baffled.

slayer

Maineguide5424

These guys did the right thing. If the deer was left alone he would lie down, stop bleeding and never be found. Would you rather the deer suffer from the wound for months and probably be killed by coyotes or bobcat?

A gut shot deer can suffer for days before dying. If you have the ambition to hunt them, you better have enough to find them when things go wrong.

bearklr

I'd like to know who in their right mind tracks a deer like this. OK...we just shot that buck in the hind leg so rather than let him lay down and die 200 yards away lets run after him for three miles at which time we probably won't even find him without 1 foot of snow on the ground to help us track. Also, you should never let a deer overnight during rifle season in 25 degree weather. Everyone knows meat spoils in below freezing temperatures, that's why I keep all my steaks in the oven. Man, whoever wrote this article must not know the first thing about deer hunting.

jcchartboy

Well Actually this is his experience....


Jim Zumbo has two degrees in forestry and wildlife management, and worked as a forester and wildlife biologist for 15 years. He sold his first article to OUTDOOR LIFE in 1962, and has had over 1,500 articles published in all the major outdoor magazines. In 1978, Zumbo joined OUTDOOR LIFE as full-time Western editor, then Editor at large, and is currently the Hunting Editor.
Widely regarded as the foremost authority on North American big game hunting, Zumbo has a large readership audience. In addition to his hundreds of articles published by OUTDOOR LIFE, Zumbo has authored 23 books.
Zumbo also lectures extensively, primarily on big game hunting topics. He gives elk hunting schools, seminars and clinics on big game. Zumbo helped establish the NRA’s Great American Hunting Tour by appearing at the first program in l987. Since then, he has appeared in more than 70 cities with the NRA and other show producers. He has been featured in seven hunting videos, three on elk, two on mule deer, one on whitetail deer, one on bighorn sheep, and one on cooking venison. He designed his own elk call and produced an accompanying 30-minute instructional cassette tape on the use of the call. He is also known for his skills as an outdoor photographer, having had some 3,000 photos published. Zumbo hosts his own show "Jim Zumbo Outdoors" which airs weekly on the Outdoor Channel. This show depicts all forms of hunting with an emphasis on western big game.

Zumbo lives in a log home in the mountains between Cody, Wyoming and Yellowstone National Park, with his wife, Madonna, and their two Labrador retrievers -- in an area he claims offers the best big game hunting in the lower 48. He routinely hunts whitetails and other game in at least 20 states each year. He also hunts Canada and Alaska extensively and has hunted abroad as well, including Africa, Europe, and South America. He has recently completed a personal goal of hunting deer in all 50 states. He has already hunted elk in every western “elk” state, and has hunted all but two Canadian provinces.

Professionally, he was chairman of the New York State Metropolitan Chapter of the Society of American Foresters, president of the Utah Chapter of The Wildlife Society, a two term Board member of the Outdoor Writer’s Association of America, and served seven years on The Board of Directors of the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation (RMEF). He is a Professional Member of the Boone and Crockett Club, currently serves on board of the US Sportsmen's Alliance, and also serves again on the RMEF board.

moose1915

Theres a fella named Trout that wrote a book about this "finding wounded deer"

he has 30 years experience, worked in conjunction with medical and veterianary specialists to do his research. And he has tracked over 300 wounded deer.

he is very adamant that a paunch or gut shot deer CANNOT live more than 12-18 hours following the hit. something about the poisoning that occurs when the digestive area is breached. give it enough time to lay down, and you will find it nearby the next day, if you (or other predators) don't spook it off.

the book is out in my garage, i keep it in my daypack. it is the best written book on the subject i have read, i wish i read it 20 years ago. i highly recommend it.

he breaks down blood colors, consistencies, hair colors, textures, animal reactions, shot placement , etc... and there ARE a couple "bad hit spots" that require IMMEDIATE pursuit. most require waiting, but the bottom line is that different shots require different recovery methods.

it's a good read.

-moose

bearklr

jcchartboy, well that's just fine and dandy for Jim. How did you know he wrote it? Did you actually see the article? If so, then so be it, I didn't see the actual article myself so I only have to go on what you say. As far as his backgroud personally I don't beleive every word that comes out of someones mouth and live by everything they say just because of their "background". Just look at presidents...they have one he!! of a resume in politics but doesn't mean they know everything their talking about it just gives them a good overall understanding. I think the same holds true here. I still never heard anything so silly as chasing a leg shot deer for miles. But then again, Jim said it so it HAS to be true.

jcchartboy

Have it right here..read it last week..pulled it out this morning so I could let people know whose opinions they were questioning. I think it always helpful to others when they read a post, to know the backgrounds of those on both sides of the debate. That allows them to make a more educated decision on there own.

bearklr

jc that's a good idea. I kind of figured Jim wrote it and that it would be brought up but regardless of his background I still think his stand on tracking is completely wrong. I wonder if he would ever write about how many deer he lost tracking them this way. It's funny how stuff like that never hits the pages, and if he said he never lost a deer this way then I know he's full of crap (on this issue). He may be good but nobody is THAT good.