hey guys, thanks for the advice...i expected a lot more ribbing than i got. Thanks for everyone's understanding and great tips. I made it out of the woods last night right at dark, using one of the flashlights that uses the big batteries. I'm gettin there, i plan to walk those woods once season ends to get a better feel for them and during the time that season is in, i'm gonna work on gettin there earlier and stayin later. Thanks again for everyone's support