Scouting and Accessing Public Land
#31
I could care less if he makes vids and shares them. My point is the comment he makes in the original post is that his method is a great way to get into new hunting lands and he doesn't seem to note that they may not be legal everywhere. Several of us gave examples where his method will get you a ticket.
And I'm sure not going to bother going to a different site to look up his "about me" post. Why not just put it here.
And I'm sure not going to bother going to a different site to look up his "about me" post. Why not just put it here.
But since you want to quote me, I think you are wrong. Have a good day.
#32
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,230
Wrong about what? His method of accessing public land? In several areas of the west doing things his way could very well get someone a ticket. Perhaps you should look at the water use regs in places like CO and UT as has been noted.
#33
The first 5 posts discussed the land access issue very adequately. Tops initial reply was correct, adequate, and sufficient. Your initial post dialed in exactly what he was not understanding. You guys took that fifth post the wrong way and it went downhill from there.
So again, I disagree, I posted to support him to continue making videos. Have a good day.
#34
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
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I dont need to look, I have read into the issue a great bit and fish with a few guys that guide out there in the summers. I think your wrong in that he needs a disclaimer about what is legal or not legal, thats up to a viewer to figure out. I have never seen one at the beginning of a fishing show nor hunting show so why are we nitpicking his video?
The first 5 posts discussed the land access issue very adequately. Tops initial reply was correct, adequate, and sufficient. Your initial post dialed in exactly what he was not understanding. You guys took that fifth post the wrong way and it went downhill from there.
So again, I disagree, I posted to support him to continue making videos. Have a good day.
The first 5 posts discussed the land access issue very adequately. Tops initial reply was correct, adequate, and sufficient. Your initial post dialed in exactly what he was not understanding. You guys took that fifth post the wrong way and it went downhill from there.
So again, I disagree, I posted to support him to continue making videos. Have a good day.
Disagree all you want, as most times when you post it's to disagree with someone and you never have a clue as to what your end of the disagreement is! The guy put out a video for all the world to see under a business he runs that would lead anyone that isn't up on things like several of us are that what he's doing is good anywhere. He even came back and made a statement to that affect AFTER we clued him in that many places don't allow you to do what he did. None of us said not to make videos now did we? IMHO that short first post of yours was essentially agreeing that his video was okay the way it was made and it certainly wasn't without specifically addressing the fact that what he was doing is not legal in many places and people need to know that. All we stated was that when a video is made that there should be explicit details of the dos and don'ts associated with the video. He could have made that statement right out in the video itself or had a disclaimer at the start or end of it like he finally stated he did after the thread kept going on and on due to him being obtuse like you seem to be now with your posts!
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#35
Thanks, and will do. I have too much fun to quit. It's not a business, and I don't make a dime off of it nor do I want too, so for me it's just about having fun and getting others out on a hunting or fishing adventure. I've got a lot to learn yet between filming and editing, but I've got a lot of hunts coming up so plenty of time to work on all of that.
#36
Disagree all you want, as most times when you post it's to disagree with someone and you never have a clue as to what your end of the disagreement is! The guy put out a video for all the world to see under a business he runs that would lead anyone that isn't up on things like several of us are that what he's doing is good anywhere. He even came back and made a statement to that affect AFTER we clued him in that many places don't allow you to do what he did. None of us said not to make videos now did we? IMHO that short first post of yours was essentially agreeing that his video was okay the way it was made and it certainly wasn't without specifically addressing the fact that what he was doing is not legal in many places and people need to know that. All we stated was that when a video is made that there should be explicit details of the dos and don'ts associated with the video. He could have made that statement right out in the video itself or had a disclaimer at the start or end of it like he finally stated he did after the thread kept going on and on due to him being obtuse like you seem to be now with your posts!
But I'm fairly certain of what I disagree with. There is no need for a disclaimer. You don't find them on most videos you come across in regards to hunting and fishing so why are you being so petty with this guys video? If you see an elk hunting video, do you need a disclaimer telling you the regulations for every state? Probably not. If I post a video of me fly fishing for Brooks, do you need a disclaimer about the seasons, size limits, etc. No, so stop being so dang on petty.
#37
Typical Buck
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I agree old salty and the info flags posted about texas regs was wrong. Unfortunately these guys are ruining this once good site with their B.S.
#38
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
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So please post and tell us what was incorrect, rather than just saying something he said was wrong! The thing wrong with this site is people like yourself coming on saying others are ruining this site, rather than you making some positive posts helping people like a number of us are trying to do. Try it sometime instead of just coming on every time a person posts like you keep doing to me to say how bad this site is. I asked you politely in a PM to play nice and got nothing back but BS about how you were going to follow me all over the site hoping I get banned and then you come on and post more of this kind of crap, which it appears is all you're good at! As the old saying says: "don't go away mad, just go away" if all you can post is how bad this site is!!!
#39
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
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I'm sorry you and others are not up on things. I can't help you with that.
But I'm fairly certain of what I disagree with. There is no need for a disclaimer. You don't find them on most videos you come across in regards to hunting and fishing so why are you being so petty with this guys video? If you see an elk hunting video, do you need a disclaimer telling you the regulations for every state? Probably not. If I post a video of me fly fishing for Brooks, do you need a disclaimer about the seasons, size limits, etc. No, so stop being so dang on petty.
But I'm fairly certain of what I disagree with. There is no need for a disclaimer. You don't find them on most videos you come across in regards to hunting and fishing so why are you being so petty with this guys video? If you see an elk hunting video, do you need a disclaimer telling you the regulations for every state? Probably not. If I post a video of me fly fishing for Brooks, do you need a disclaimer about the seasons, size limits, etc. No, so stop being so dang on petty.
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#40
You disagree with us and that's fine, but most videos like you're talking about don't show a method that may be illegal in some areas like he did! Then when the facts were posted so at least those on this site would know what he posted was not legal in all areas he came right back and had to be corrected a second time because he was totally wrong. YOU are the one that's being petty because I'd bet that if you were one that followed his advice in an area where it was illegal you'd be pissed and be asking him to pay your ticket if you got one!
Listen, you don't have to like my views on things or agree with me, but some of this is getting rediculous. Almost like needing a warning label telling us "caution, coffee is got. I'm just saying, if I went through my YouTube history right now I can probably find an issue within each and every one. The first one would be my brothers spearfishing trip in Florida and if we put disclaimers into the videos like what is being asked here he would have to tell everyone that spears are not legal in certain areas but Hawaiian slings are the accepted method of harvesting in the Bahamas. I just don't see the point in the disclaimer. It's not the guys problem from Florida, it's the guys problem going to the Bahamas to find out what he needs to know.
Also if you went back and read my second post in this I agreed, you brought up an excellent point about land/water access. I even said the next few replies addressed what he was not fully understanding, but again I think you guys got ridiculously petty about everything after that.