Scopes on Muzzleloaders... For or Against?
06-01-2017, 07:31 PM
#21
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: IL
Posts: 6,575
Why wouldn't you want someone to be as accurate as possible?
I guess I understand the idea of no scope in some states, although 1 state only allows scopes for residents, that seems illegal to me to not allow non-residents.
and in this day in age, kids grow up having never shot a rifle with rifle sights...
I'd personally want a modern ML with a scope.
I guess I understand the idea of no scope in some states, although 1 state only allows scopes for residents, that seems illegal to me to not allow non-residents.
and in this day in age, kids grow up having never shot a rifle with rifle sights...
I'd personally want a modern ML with a scope.
06-02-2017, 03:52 AM
#22
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: south eastern PA
Posts: 14,769
Perhaps they should learn how to use sights, scopes break. BTW a state can write their laws the way they want to, nothing illegal about it, their resources their laws, do you know any state that charges residents and non residents the same fee for a license. Many states give residents first crack at certain licenses.
06-02-2017, 05:41 AM
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 2,743
Why wouldn't you want someone to be as accurate as possible?
I guess I understand the idea of no scope in some states, although 1 state only allows scopes for residents, that seems illegal to me to not allow non-residents.
and in this day in age, kids grow up having never shot a rifle with rifle sights...
I'd personally want a modern ML with a scope.
I guess I understand the idea of no scope in some states, although 1 state only allows scopes for residents, that seems illegal to me to not allow non-residents.
and in this day in age, kids grow up having never shot a rifle with rifle sights...
I'd personally want a modern ML with a scope.
the concept of a Primitive season, was designed I GATHER< for primitive weapons, and then the muzzleloader seasons,
and these IMO were crated to give more chances for ways to harvest deer, get more folks involved and and sell more lic/tags
NO where is it all about making one hunter more successful or not,
when you hunt with ANY weapon, its the shooters job to KNOW there limits and best there skills to be able to be as clean killing as possible, NO matter WHAT weapon they hunt with or sights on it.
if your NOT able to make clean kills shots, DON"T be shooting at living critters, its NOT a poke and hope type of game !
and there is NO reason a kid shouldn't know how to use open sights, its silly for them NOT to!
the more they learn the better off they will ONLY be down the road ! in all area's of life too, NOT just shooting and hunting IMO!
06-02-2017, 05:59 AM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Onslow County, NC
Posts: 1,856
Perhaps they should learn how to use sights, scopes break. BTW a state can write their laws the way they want to, nothing illegal about it, their resources their laws, do you know any state that charges residents and non residents the same fee for a license. Many states give residents first crack at certain licenses.
06-02-2017, 06:03 AM
#26
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Onslow County, NC
Posts: 1,856
the concept of a Primitive season, was designed I GATHER< for primitive weapons, and then the muzzleloader seasons,
and these IMO were crated to give more chances for ways to harvest deer, get more folks involved and and sell more lic/tags
NO where is it all about making one hunter more successful or not,
when you hunt with ANY weapon, its the shooters job to KNOW there limits and best there skills to be able to be as clean killing as possible, NO matter WHAT weapon they hunt with or sights on it.
if your NOT able to make clean kills shots, DON"T be shooting at living critters, its NOT a poke and hope type of game !
and there is NO reason a kid shouldn't know how to use open sights, its silly for them NOT to!
the more they learn the better off they will ONLY be down the road ! in all area's of life too, NOT just shooting and hunting IMO!
and these IMO were crated to give more chances for ways to harvest deer, get more folks involved and and sell more lic/tags
NO where is it all about making one hunter more successful or not,
when you hunt with ANY weapon, its the shooters job to KNOW there limits and best there skills to be able to be as clean killing as possible, NO matter WHAT weapon they hunt with or sights on it.
if your NOT able to make clean kills shots, DON"T be shooting at living critters, its NOT a poke and hope type of game !
and there is NO reason a kid shouldn't know how to use open sights, its silly for them NOT to!
the more they learn the better off they will ONLY be down the road ! in all area's of life too, NOT just shooting and hunting IMO!
06-02-2017, 11:39 AM
#27
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Darien, IL
Posts: 6,744
Do you support the use of scopes on Muzzleloaders?
Minnesota's Gov. Mark Dayton signed several bills into law late Tuesday afternoon, including too allow the use of scopes on muzzleloaders here in Minnesota during the muzzleloader season. Other laws passed include an increase in license fees which will go into effect next March, and also approved blaze pink as a blaze orange substitute.
“I am pleased that an agreement was reached on this bill, since there were policy provisions in the original bill proposed by the Legislature that I found objectionable,” Dayton wrote. “I am also glad the Lessard-Sams (Outdoor Heritage) Council’s recommendations were restored. Thank you for your commitment to the many sportsmen and women, outdoor recreation enthusiasts, hunters, anglers, and everyone else committed to the enhancement of our state’s priceless outdoor heritage.”
People all across social media have been talking about it back and forth for several weeks already from both sides of the argument, but I’d really like to hear your thoughts. Are you for scopes on muzzleloader? or against?
https://youtu.be/C7aPA6OkG9c
Minnesota's Gov. Mark Dayton signed several bills into law late Tuesday afternoon, including too allow the use of scopes on muzzleloaders here in Minnesota during the muzzleloader season. Other laws passed include an increase in license fees which will go into effect next March, and also approved blaze pink as a blaze orange substitute.
“I am pleased that an agreement was reached on this bill, since there were policy provisions in the original bill proposed by the Legislature that I found objectionable,” Dayton wrote. “I am also glad the Lessard-Sams (Outdoor Heritage) Council’s recommendations were restored. Thank you for your commitment to the many sportsmen and women, outdoor recreation enthusiasts, hunters, anglers, and everyone else committed to the enhancement of our state’s priceless outdoor heritage.”
People all across social media have been talking about it back and forth for several weeks already from both sides of the argument, but I’d really like to hear your thoughts. Are you for scopes on muzzleloader? or against?
https://youtu.be/C7aPA6OkG9c
I see this as a personal question and I would not base my decision on anyone else's opinion.
06-02-2017, 03:16 PM
#28
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
Muzzle loading seasons we started after NMLRA started lobbying for them in the '60s...By the '70s most states had one or were moving in that direction...At that time most were getting into muzzle loading for the challenge of using a more primitive weapon...Well, like archery, others had different ideas and were using the season for more time afield and more meat in the freezer...It's too more don't care about our history or the development of firearms...There are some, who do still like to use flintlocks to harvest their game but we are a dying breed... 
