Nice bucks again i ask,what state are you in?

That is really a good part of what is not known, as well as how much property the OP has full control over. While many would consider the best buck in that bunch a shooter in most areas, it is understandable why someone in IL and several of the other states that are known for growing big bucks wouldn't. If the OP has a small amount of acreage and that buck isn't on it most of the time other than to come to that feeder at night, the chances of taking it even if he thinks it's a shooter go way down. In order to pick and choose what is going to be taken out of a herd you need to either have a high fence where you have full control or a huge place where the deer aren't likely to go onto an adjacent piece of property where the people are shooting anything with horns or that is brown! A buck has a set piece of territory, regardless of who owns it, that he will stay in most of the year and when the rut gets going all bets are off as to where he may be.

Im in South Carolina and have 450 acres. When i pulled those cards one camera had 6 different bucks and the other one had 11. First time camera in this location and last year hunted the stand and never saw a buck, just does. So I cant tell if hes just hanging out cause I have better food than his usual place or if hes a local.

Are the cams that are getting the footage more centrally located on that 450 acres or are they on the outskirts? 450 acres is a good number for "holding" deer as long as it has the big 3. Food, Water, and Cover. Those 2 may have drifted into your property and set up home. As far as South Carolina deer go, they are both good deer. Still a bit on the young side but they might well end up being very dominant this season and producing some fine offspring. If it were me, and Top don't bite my head off, I would let them walk till at least after rut. Let them breed up a few Doe. Just my opinion on this. If you would like to see your property start producing some fine racks, then you will have to let the young ones mature and breed.

Where is your property in SC? I do some hunting around Lodge SC.

LOL! I'm not going to bite your's or anyone else's head off. MY comment that the wide buck was a shooter was merely based on what I think most people on this or other sites would shoot if they got the chance because the majority of guys will probably not see one like that, especially if they only hunt public land, and would shoot him in a heartbeat. I agreed with a statement by RP that everyone has their own standards and that RP wouldn't shoot him because of where he lives with a lot of really big deer potential and then I was the one that got my head bit off! That deer in many areas would be considered mature, but he certainly wouldn't in IL and some of the other big buck states. I have no idea whether that deer will be big enough that the OP will want to shoot him if he sees him this season or how big a buck might get where he lives. The acreage he says he has is nice and may well hold that buck there all year if it has what you mentioned and enough does to keep him happy during the rut. Then again, if the camera is near the perimeter of the property the buck may only be on that property at night just for that feed and won't be seen at all during hunting hours this fall. It sure sounds like the property has a lot of deer right now with some really great potential if things are done properly.

how many does were in the pics approximately? I'll start a thread later based on my reasoning.
RR

Not many but I wasnt expecting to see any. The one labeled "Ditch Cam" was placed in order to monitor a large bachelor group. By large I mean 8 bucks together at the same time. Seeing 10 or 11 different bucks is common but half are 2yrs or younger. The doe groups are in different areas of my farm. They usually arent very far but they tend to feed in different places and at different times. Usually about 8-10 does per group. In fact that large bachelor group moved proly 300 yards away because there were 3 very pregnant does in the place I used to see them. Guessing the does are tending to their fawns and ran the bucks off.

in areas of the east, that have high deer populations, and they are managed for revenue, the buck/doe ratio is so far out of kilter that the more mature bucks are breeding so many does they just wear themselves down too much, here 4.5 year old bucks are about the best you'll see, only a couple ever live to make they're 6th fall, we have somewhere around 40 deer psm, we have the carrying capacity of 18. you guys from il, mo, wi, mi, and such places claim the bucks aren't mature, they are as mature as they will get the way the heard has been managed. your average bucks are trophies of a lifetime in the east. in tx some bucks that live in areas with plenty of food , and supplemented in the fall, a buck/doe ratio of 1-2 they will live 12-13 years, that never happens here, many 4.5 year old bucks are found dead in dec/jan many are found in fields of standing corn to worn down to even get up to feed.
every excess doe in the woods takes food away from another deer, so too many deer leads to a shorter lifespan for the buck population due to food shortages and to much rutting activity.
that's my take on it, my opinion worth what ya paid for it.
RR

Can't argue with a thing you said RR and that's sort of why I said that wide buck in this thread would get shot by most people unless they are in one of those big buck growing areas like RP is in down in Pike and Adams county in IL. Down there that buck would probably be considered a runt, LOL! I do doubt that very few deer will live to 12-13 years though just because their teeth will generally be gone most of the time before they hit double digits. If you have 40 deer psm, they must be awful runty in size, as Fort Custer near Battle Creek had a population like that back in the 60s and the does were about the size of a German Shepherd in that 10,000 acre facility. We finally got hunts started and took 2000 deer out of there in the three years it was open to controlled hunts and the deer the third year had already gained almost 30# more on the average than the first year we weighed them at the check station.