they are getting bigger here, in the 80's we had upwards of 80 psm, bigger bucks weighed 110#, we have been really whacking them from mid 80's to late 90's, unlimited doe tags and such, now we get a 140-160#er pretty regular.
I brought up the bucks living to 13 in tx due to a book I read by Larry Weishun years ago, he was managing deer heards for ranchers, a guy called needing help, asked larry where all his old bucks were going, larry went by and checked the heard every buck appeared to Larry to be no more than 6.5 yo, so he shot a couple and had them aged, they were both 13, the ranch had a buck/doe ratio of 1 doe for every 2 bucks.
RR

RR, 100% correct. To add a little, one of the other problems in SOME of the Eastern/South Eastern states is the "If its brown it's down" mentality. Shooting the young bucks before they mature. And guys, I live here in Illinois but I haven't all my life. Just a little more than a decade out of the many. I'm from the South East so I know very well how the deer are. I was hunting in NC, SC, TN, KY, GA,FL,AL in the 50's and 60's when some VERY nice bucks were still around in the South East. Back when I only took 140"+ class bucks and they weren't that difficult to locate. Nowadays I only take bucks that look like they just "aint up to snuff" or aren't going to be for the gene pool. I much prefer a nice fat slick head for table fare.

From the OP's last post, it sounds to me like he has a VERY healthy Buck to Doe ratio on his property. So as far as management goes I personally would let those 2 bad boys find them some girlfriends this year at least and put a cap in one either late season after rut and before they shed or take a chance and go after them next year. Just my own personal opinion. You guys paid the same for it as you did RR's

super hunt54---That's pretty much the same thing I stated earlier and why I mentioned that buck is a shooter to most guys. A lot of people on the net say they are trophy hunters, intimating that they only will shoot a mature deer. However, when it comes down to squeezing the trigger that mature buck comes down to one that is just decent. I used to hunt the south Texas brush country and passed on lots of bucks like that buck here will probably be when he hardens in a couple months. It was easy to do though because you never knew when a world record type buck would step out of the brush. I never saw one, but I was sure waiting on him, LOL! Looking back now I probably passed on several that would have been 160" class deer, especially one 10 point buck that was really wide that I watched and let grow for two years. The third year when I figured I'd shoot him I never saw him in over a month of hunting where he always was. He must have died of old age, a vehicle accident, or someone on the adjacent ranch may have wacked him. I do have great video footage of him that second year when he was probably 5 or 6 years old and it's really just as cool watching him than it would be if he was dead here on the wall! When you're in a lot of areas like we're talking about, this buck would not make it past this year if anyone gets a good crack at him whether he's mature or not for the area he's in. That's one neat thing about hunting in that as long as we are legal we can individually choose what will make each of us happy.