Murby

Its sad that some people can't have a difference of opinion and hold their side of an argument like a mature adult.
Resorting to calling someone names and launching personal insults says a lot about you, not me.

You think that someone who is tracking a deer and consequently trespassing is a big issue.. I don't.

I guess if a conversation ever turned to one of the hot topics like religion, politics, birth control or whatever, you'd probably just spontaneously combust and self destruct.

Topgun 3006

Funny that this thread is now nine pages and that all of us have the same view on this except you. That's because your ideas make no sense and are far from the majority, logical view on trespassing. You're the one who is coming up with all these BS posts saying each of us has something wrong with us, insulting/dissing a service man, etc.!!! Oh, and by the way, if you think that me calling you names when I say you're a clairvoyant is a personal insult, then you are the one who should stay out of ALL discussions on this site because things are way over your head, and if you don't call what you just posted back to me an insult on your part, then booby you defiinitely need to rethink things.

rockport

I will say I wouldn't blame some one for trespassing to get their deer after being told no.

I know that is probably not popular but what can I say? I guess sometimes my principals don't always agree with the law.

Topgun 3006

***Not only not popular, but you are saying you would violate the law, so your principles definitely come into question! The way to handle what we are discussing is not to be hunting so close to a piece of property whose owners don't want anyone trespassing, regardless of why, to avoid a situation where you wound a deer and have to follow it onto land where you have no right to be!

Bullcamp82834

Of all the people I've found trespassing I've yet to encounter one who was legitimately following the trail of a wounded game animal that was shot elsewhere and crossed my property line.
If that ever happens I'll gladly lend a hand in recovering the animal.

Nope, it's always people trespassing for no legitimate reason.

rockport

Sorry, I'm not a sheep.

Sometimes I have to choose I guess between what I think is right and what I'm told is right.

You can question my principals if you want. To be quite honest I don't meet to many people now days who's principals I don't find questionable.

I find it very wrong to let an animal die and rot for no good reason(I question those principals). Ive have lost animals before this way and lost sleep night after night because I regret my decision.

Retrieving the animal legally is the right way but if your taking the right way off the table you have left me with 2 options.....what I think is wrong and what I think is even worse.

If I get in trouble doing what I think is right so be it. I'll answer for it with my head up.

Murby

There's a lot of truth to that.. And I think that's probably the root cause of the prevailing strong attitude we see here on the subject...

One poster suggested putting a phone number on all the No-Trespassing signs... I wonder if that would solve many of the issues..

Murby

It wouldn't be the first time I've stood alone.. probably won't be the last.

Well you were doing ok until you made this statement. My ideas make no sense?? What makes no sense?
Far from the majority ? Ya.. ok.. I can agree to that... But then you go one step further and add "logical" to your description... How is being lenient concerning trespassers not logical???

Wow.. are you just making stuff up as you go along? I can do that too if you like but I'll refrain if you do from future comments.
Please stick to the facts.. don't embellish, don't twist them, and don't try to relabel the meaning of comments.

You know, it would be great if you could just get back to the subject of the conversation.. Hold the personal attacks, but please feel free to blast away with your opinions and why you have them.


So lets see if I can put this back on track.. (and please correct me if I am mistaken here)..
You think that trespassing for any reason is wrong and should be treated as a serious crime. Does that sum it up?

I think that trespassing is not wrong so long as the person doing it is not being malicious. (IE: is not hunting, stealing, destroying, spying, or any other type of nefarious activity).
My opinion is that if a trespasser is following a blood trail it is not an issue for me.

I think the real root of this argument is that it is nearly impossible to determine if someone is trespassing benignly or just taking advantage of your absence.

Topgun 3006

"You think that trespassing for any reason is wrong and should be treated as a serious crime. Does that sum it up?"

With the exception of using the word serious it is very simple if that's what you want---If a law says you can't do something and you go ahead and do it anyway, regardless of why, you are in violation of said law. Maybe that's a strict intrepretation that you and Rockport don't agree with regarding trespassing, but I won't get a ticket because I won't disobey said law, whereas Rockport stands a good chance of that AND losing his deer AND possibly even losing his hunting priviledges if caught and it's determined to be an egregious violation. It is not up to the individual to make a determination of whether they think the law is good or bad and to violate it if they think the latter. If they think it is bad, then it's up to them to try and have the law changed, not violate it. I guess this may come from a 30+ year career in law enforcement, but that's my take on it.

TheDudeAbides

For years we have had a mutual agreement with all of our neighbors that allows us to track a deer onto the other's property. Despite our recent frustrations with our neighbors that's started this whole thread, we have helped them retrieve multiple deer on our property and theirs and they have done the same for us. We have a had a good relationship over the years, which is why I do not get why they have been acting like they have been the last few years.

As far as people other than our neighbors coming onto our land for tracking deer, we are highly skeptical of them. Several years ago my grandpa had a group of men stop by in a pickup (with zero deer in the truck bed) and ask of they could go back on to his property to track a deer they had hit. My Grandpa allowed them to go back to retrieve their deer. When they came out of the woods, there we're two deer in the back of the truck and then men just drove off without stopping back at the house.

Anyway, I'd also like to mention that this post has not went in the direction I intended.