Touchy subject
11-28-2012, 04:53 AM
#31
Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by deernmusky
Here is a question for ya....
Were the jewish lied to when they were brought to the Camp??...Just to be killed. Its pretty much the same aspect in a sense. I dont see them getting special attention for that horrible act.
Were the jewish lied to when they were brought to the Camp??...Just to be killed. Its pretty much the same aspect in a sense. I dont see them getting special attention for that horrible act.
11-28-2012, 06:05 AM
#32
Fork Horn
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jmartin1, I just want to say that it isn't every Native American that is doing this and I know that. I have 2 buddy's, they are brothers, they are both native American, they growing up and in high school, hated the fact that people were spearing the walleyes and doing a lot of the things they did, I completely understand the rituals and there are some that hang on to there heritage and I have no problem with them. It's the one's like the 2 brothers that I know, who now, when Ice fishing put out unlimited tip ups, because they can, started trapping a couple years ago because they can get a bunch of tags and trap just to do it, when both of them are union plumbers and make between 70-90 thousand a year and aren't doing any of this to help feed there families or make a extra income to help clothe themselves and there families. My problem lies with those who do it because they can and have no real tradition other than the fact that they are 1/32nd native American, they have no real respect for the fact that there ancestors got the privilege to do this to feed there families and survive and yes, there land was taken from them and there way of life. Seems to me that they have adapted pretty well and yet want the rights to do what they 120 years ago but use the adapted way of life to do it..
11-28-2012, 07:30 AM
#33
Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by deernmusky
Its history and thats it. Things like this haven't been done in many years. These so called native INDIANS are not living in Teepees anymore nor are they being subject to the practices that were done by our ancestors. All they are doing is collecting from something horrible that happened how many years ago.?. Enough is a enough... I am truely sorry for what happened to there ancestors, however how long do we have to kiss there A$$. There are alot of other groups of people in this world that have suffered in history but I dont see them collecting in on these On-going benefits. I also think there ancestors would be sick to see traditional hunts being done with modern weapons.
I dont have a big post count like HalfBaked I mostly just come on here a read, but I read enough to personally in my opinion think that HalfBaked is an idiot. This is America. We are all equal. So we should all be held to the same standards.
I dont have a big post count like HalfBaked I mostly just come on here a read, but I read enough to personally in my opinion think that HalfBaked is an idiot. This is America. We are all equal. So we should all be held to the same standards.
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11-28-2012, 07:31 AM
#34
Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by deernmusky
Here is a question for ya....
Were the jewish lied to when they were brought to the Camp??...Just to be killed. Its pretty much the same aspect in a sense. I dont see them getting special attention for that horrible act.
At least HalfBaked wont be alone on idiot island, supflav can join him.
Were the jewish lied to when they were brought to the Camp??...Just to be killed. Its pretty much the same aspect in a sense. I dont see them getting special attention for that horrible act.
At least HalfBaked wont be alone on idiot island, supflav can join him.
11-28-2012, 07:35 AM
#35
Nontypical Buck
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Originally Posted by Buckyou
"the ultimate price these peoples ancestors have paid ...."
Really.
How about the price MY ANCESTORS PAID TO KEEP THEM FREE !?
History says they got screwed...........true.
History also says.........every country ever over run, occupied and kept in war isn't right, but it happens. Just so happens they had buffalo.
NO different then Hitler tearing up Europe. Differnce is.....Europeans got on with life, and don't get everything for free because of the "other white men" the Germans.
I too think the Indians got screwed, but you can't change that. Isn't free hunting licenses, and no taxes enough !? Sounds good to me !
Really.
How about the price MY ANCESTORS PAID TO KEEP THEM FREE !?
History says they got screwed...........true.
History also says.........every country ever over run, occupied and kept in war isn't right, but it happens. Just so happens they had buffalo.
NO different then Hitler tearing up Europe. Differnce is.....Europeans got on with life, and don't get everything for free because of the "other white men" the Germans.
I too think the Indians got screwed, but you can't change that. Isn't free hunting licenses, and no taxes enough !? Sounds good to me !
11-28-2012, 09:00 AM
#36
Fork Horn
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We all have different opinions on different subjects, luckily we live in a free country where we can express our opinions and beliefs without being arrested or persecuted for our beliefs and or our opinions and we can thank god for that and thank the lord Jesus for the ultimate price that was ever paid, and that price was paid for all who are willing to accept the gift of Salvation... When I think of the price that all of the people in the world have paid and the reason it was paid, none were so great as the price paid on the cross at Calvary...
11-29-2012, 06:01 AM
#38
Fork Horn
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I have to agree I do not like hunting at night
but then this was ALL their land and they got totally screwed, but being part native american maybe I have a different view
No excuses for the way the Natives were treated, most of those men back in those days were nothing more then scum, they treated everything, animals, women and anyone different like dirt.
but then this was ALL their land and they got totally screwed, but being part native american maybe I have a different view
No excuses for the way the Natives were treated, most of those men back in those days were nothing more then scum, they treated everything, animals, women and anyone different like dirt.
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11-29-2012, 06:26 AM
#39
Typical Buck
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Originally Posted by supaflav
Take advantage of the system? Are you freaking kidding me! The white man came to America, lied to them, killed them, raped their women and took their land. Not to mention the diseases that they were given. They deserve so much more than they are given and no one should have any complaints about it.
They choose to be a separate "Nation". They can't have it both ways.
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