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Old 11-27-2012, 08:30 AM
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I know it will be a touchy subject but I don't really care at this point. It's gone WAY TO FAR. 75 hunters of the Chippewa Band of Native Americans were ready to take the woods LAST NIGHT.. Yup, they have gotten the o.k. to hunt deer at night in the woods of Northern Wisconsin... This is an outrage to me. Absolutely ridiculous.. When will it stop. I can go on and on about what I believe should be right and wrong, but this is just stupid. What happened to the " always know whats beyond your target " rule of hunting. It's been a long time since I have gone through hunter safety but it was drilled into my head before hunter safety and after hunter safety by my father and grandfather and now I drill it into the heads of the young/new hunters that I am in contact with. This is a JOKE.... Take,take,take,take,take..... That's all its about these days to the "native" American Indian.... Let the fire works begin........
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:34 AM
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If they want to do it as a tradition way of hunting then Hickory bows and flint arrow heads and only on private land. If that how it is done then i have no problem. You can't complain that you want to hunt at night to get back to the ways of your anchestors and then go out with a mag lite and .30-06.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:44 AM
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their people were here 1st. who are you to tell them what they can and cannot do? where is this article at? why are you so upset? not like you or yours will be out there at night anyway?
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:58 AM
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It's on the news. WEAU.COM... It bothers me that people constantly take advantage of the system and that's what is happening here. I wouldn't have a problem with it if they were on there own land and didn't do it on public land but no, that's not what most of them will do.. They will go on public land with spot lights, rifles, out of there trucks etc etc. I realize times have changed and they have guns, spotlights, trucks, bass boats that they spear from, I don't expect them to go out in birch bark canoes and use torches, I would however expect common sense to be a part of the " rituals " of the Native American tribes. I know it's not every Native American and have no problem with them being able to gun hunt for 4 months out of the year (when I can gun hunt for 9 days) have unlimited buck tags (when I get 2 a year) Get a bear tag every year (when I get one every 5-7 years) get multiple fisher tags every year ( when I get one every couple) Get to take by spearing hundreds of walleyes in the spring out of the lakes that aren't even open to me to fishing for walleyes until after the spawn because "we" are trying to protect the walleye numbers and when the season is open the size and bag limits are ridiculous, etc etc etc yup I guess I do have a problem with it......
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:03 AM
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If the state is going to make it legal to hunt at night or change in other laws for that matter do it all across the board. Not just for one group of people. I totally understand why pyclub is coming from. This is an accident waiting to happen.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pyclub1 View Post
It's on the news. WEAU.COM... It bothers me that people constantly take advantage of the system and that's what is happening here. I wouldn't have a problem with it if they were on there own land and didn't do it on public land but no, that's not what most of them will do.. They will go on public land with spot lights, rifles, out of there trucks etc etc. I realize times have changed and they have guns, spotlights, trucks, bass boats that they spear from, I don't expect them to go out in birch bark canoes and use torches, I would however expect common sense to be a part of the " rituals " of the Native American tribes. I know it's not every Native American and have no problem with them being able to gun hunt for 4 months out of the year (when I can gun hunt for 9 days) have unlimited buck tags (when I get 2 a year) Get a bear tag every year (when I get one every 5-7 years) get multiple fisher tags every year ( when I get one every couple) Get to take by spearing hundreds of walleyes in the spring out of the lakes that aren't even open to me to fishing for walleyes until after the spawn because "we" are trying to protect the walleye numbers and when the season is open the size and bag limits are ridiculous, etc etc etc yup I guess I do have a problem with it......
sometimes you have to get over yourself and realize the ultimate price these peoples ancestors have paid....maybe if someone came in and killed almost all of yer ancestors off, killed all the animals and destroyed the land where your people once thrived, you might feel different. the fact you even get a tag every 7 years is a plus. just try and be thankful that our ancestors killed off as many native americans as possible...destroyed and killed all the wild buffalo just for fun...so you could get a tag every 7 years
doesnt sound all that awesome does it?
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MD DEERHUNTER View Post
If the state is going to make it legal to hunt at night or change in other laws for that matter do it all across the board. Not just for one group of people. I totally understand why pyclub is coming from. This is an accident waiting to happen.
he is just worried about himself..puhhhleeze, ya saw his last post..they get all this, and i only get that
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:13 AM
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So, I guess now we have to make special exceptions for all groups of people who had ancestors killed off?! WAKE UP AMERICA!!
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:14 AM
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The issues of traditional access and unlimited access are very often confused. I see the very similar things with gathering rights for indigenous Pacific islanders. Toss in the issue of the technology usedj to harvest the resources, and now you have a discussion.

Fishing with a single hand braided coconut fiber line and a carved bone hook does not equal the fishing poweer of a 300yd monofilament gillnet.

Unlimited access with the most modern technology does not work as a model for conservation, for anything; fish, deer, fowl, trees.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeA View Post
The issues of traditional access and unlimited access are very often confused. I see the very similar things with gathering rights for indigenous Pacific islanders. Toss in the issue of the technology usedj to harvest the resources, and now you have a discussion.

Fishing with a single hand braided coconut fiber line and a carved bone hook does not equal the fishing poweer of a 300yd monofilament gillnet.

Unlimited access with the most modern technology does not work as a model for conservation, for anything; fish, deer, fowl, trees.
agreed 100%
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