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Old 10-25-2010, 10:46 AM
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This will be my 6th season of hunting. I've always hunted from the ground but yesterday I bought my first climber. I also bought the Hunters Safety System Restraint System

I have many questions and i'm sure some of them are quite elementary so bear with me.

1. When on the ground it was easy to peel or add layers of clothing as the weather changes. How is this accomplished in a tree stand?

2. Obviously you pull up your bow. Do you pull up your backpack?

3. There is a rope that connects the seat and the foot rest (so the footrest doesn't fall away. Do you just tie it on to each piece or do you use some "clip system" for ease of use?

4. There is a pressure release foot strap that comes with the HSS. Do you attach it or should you try and connect it after you fall? If you attach it do you let it hang or roll it up and put in a pocket?

5. Where do you attach the pull rope as you climb that is attached to your bow on the ground?

6. Being new to this, how long will it take me to ascend say 17'? how about once i get the hang of it? (please keep in mind i will also be climbing using the HSS all the way up)

7. The instructions to the climber tell me to sit on the removable shooting rail as i climb. Well, it is removable and i don't want to use it for bow. There are no instructions on how to ascend without sitting on the rail. What do i do?

Thank You,
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:03 AM
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1. Very carefully...

2. I wear my pack as I climb.

3. Tie it.

4. My harness has the pressure release strap in a little attached pouch. thats where it stays until it's actually needed.

5. Mine spools out of my waist pack.

6. 17'...probably only a minute or two once you get the hang of it.

7. No idea...
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DannyD
This will be my 6th season of hunting. I've always hunted from the ground but yesterday I bought my first climber. I also bought the Hunters Safety System Restraint System

I have many questions and i'm sure some of them are quite elementary so bear with me.

1. When on the ground it was easy to peel or add layers of clothing as the weather changes. How is this accomplished in a tree stand? I'm able to put on and take them off in the stand. It's just a little cramped but can be done. I always put HSS on top of my base layer so I'm always attached to the tree when changing layers.

2. Obviously you pull up your bow. Do you pull up your backpack? I pull up my backpack with the bow. One of my backpacks, I'm able to attach my bow to the pack itself. Otherwise, I'll just loop the backpack through then tie the bow.

3. There is a rope that connects the seat and the foot rest (so the footrest doesn't fall away. Do you just tie it on to each piece or do you use some "clip system" for ease of use? I permantly tie one end to the climber and on the other end of the rope I have a clip. I loop it through the platform after I attach both to the tree. You'll get tangled up if you leave them attached all the time.

4. There is a pressure release foot strap that comes with the HSS. Do you attach it or should you try and connect it after you fall? If you attach it do you let it hang or roll it up and put in a pocket? I don't have it with me. If I fall, I should be within arm's reach of the climber and should be able to pull myself up.

5. Where do you attach the pull rope as you climb that is attached to your bow on the ground? I like to get 25' up if possible. I use a 27' rope attached to the climber part of the stand so my platform is right at 25'.

6. Being new to this, how long will it take me to ascend say 17'? how about once i get the hang of it? (please keep in mind i will also be climbing using the HSS all the way up) It'll probably take you a good 30 minutes or more the first few times from arriving at your tree to when you're settled in. Probably 15-20 minutes once you're used to it. But, that's not using the HSS all the way up. I don't. I would imagine you should add 5 minutes doing that.

7. The instructions to the climber tell me to sit on the removable shooting rail as i climb. Well, it is removable and i don't want to use it for bow. There are no instructions on how to ascend without sitting on the rail. What do i do? I never sit/stand. I put my hands on the climber and just push my weight up. I raise the climber just under my armpits, push myself up with the platform, set the platform, and do it again. I don't know what you call that apparatus in a gym, but it's similar to it, when you extend your arms and hold yourself up. Then lower yourself and push yourself back up. Whatever you call it that's what I do. You can get up a tree faster that way because you're taking bigger bites than just sit/stand. It also makes noise every time you reset, so the fewer bites you take the less noise.

Thank You,
Dan

I have a Summit Viper and that's how I do it. Good luck.
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DannyD
1. When on the ground it was easy to peel or add layers of clothing as the weather changes. How is this accomplished in a tree stand?
Don't count on working with your pants too much. As far as your upper parts go, just have a plan worked out for what you're going to do with the layers. Get some hooks or something ahead of time (look for the kind that you don't have to screw in!)

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2. Obviously you pull up your bow. Do you pull up your backpack?
I usually attach my pack to the same line and pull it up with my bow or gun.


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3. There is a rope that connects the seat and the foot rest (so the footrest doesn't fall away. Do you just tie it on to each piece or do you use some "clip system" for ease of use?
I tie it on and leave it on. Not something you ever want to forget to have attached (I've used it several times).

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4. There is a pressure release foot strap that comes with the HSS. Do you attach it or should you try and connect it after you fall? If you attach it do you let it hang or roll it up and put in a pocket?
no clue...


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5. Where do you attach the pull rope as you climb that is attached to your bow on the ground?
I attach the pull rope to the top piece of the climber because that's where it's easiest to reach once I get up and settled. Reaching down to the lower unit for that string is a pain in the butt.


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6. Being new to this, how long will it take me to ascend say 17'? how about once i get the hang of it? (please keep in mind i will also be climbing using the HSS all the way up)
17' at the beginning? probably only about 5 mins. or so (not counting adjusting the harness because I don't know how the hss works). What you want to keep in mind when hunting (as opposed to practicing) is how fast you go because you'll work up a good sweat. After you get used to it, depending on your pace because of the sweat factor, a few minutes is pretty normal but I take a little longer to cool down, listen, etc.

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7. The instructions to the climber tell me to sit on the removable shooting rail as i climb. Well, it is removable and i don't want to use it for bow. There are no instructions on how to ascend without sitting on the rail. What do i do?

Thank You,
Dan
Most removable rails I've seen are easy enough to remove in the field. Use it to climb and then take it off and lower it back down to the ground with your rope after you've pulled up your gear. I don't use my rail to climb though. My main concern while climbing is usually noise (after safety, obviously). So I'm usually making much larger strides than I can if I sit on the rail. But even then, now that I think about it, I guess I'm off/on, off/on...

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