Non-resident hunting license?
#31
Fork Horn
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From: kc mo
I totally agree that non resident tags should be somewhat higher.I have never hunted outside of missouri but have been trying for 4 years to get a wyoming elk tag.Its been a little dream of mine to hunt elk. personally the dream is starting to sour with the $200 worth of preference points.So if I draw a tag for 2010 I will have a grand total of $850 wrapped up in the tag alone. Kinda takes the fun away a little bit as then I feel pressured to take the first animal I might see over being able to wait for a bull.
#32
Spike
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The same logic applies to the license as the tags... controlling the number of hunters in the state to manage the game in that state. If everybody could buy a cheap resident license in their home state that would be valid in Iowa, then what's to stop a flood of non-resident hunters from blasting the pheasant population into oblivion in Iowa? Not much. This goes beyond just deer hunting, which apparently you don't understand.
Mike
Mike
#33
Spike
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I think that every state should charge non-residents whatever the taxpayers representatives feel is due for the PRIVILEGE of hunting in a state they don't normally reside and pay taxes in. If you don't want to spend the money, hunt in your own state... or move and become a resident of the state you prefer to do your hunting in. Living in Iowa, I pay taxes all year around in Iowa, a portion of which supports the DNR and conservation and game management. Because I live here, I enjoy the privilege of $27 deer tags. If I want to go hunting with at my brother's place in MN, I pay the $141 MN charges for a non-resident firearms deer license. If he comes home to Iowa, he'll pay whatever Iowa charges non-residents for a license and tags. I really don't have a problem with this disparity. Like I said, I pay taxes all year round to Iowa, my brother pays his to Minnesota, and we both enjoy the respective benefits of living in our chosen state.
Mike
Mike
And please tell me you're kidding when you suggest someone move to a state just to be able to hunt there cheaply. That is the most insane thought I've heard in a long time.
I grew up in Iowa and have hunted with my family there for over 20 years. The problem is they've raised the prices and changed the tag rules so that it is very difficult for me to justify coming back for the family hunt anymore. I'm not a trophy hunter and am just as happy with a doe as a buck. Why can't I just pay a reasonable amount (<$200) so I can come hunt with my family? There is more to hunting than just killing something. I enjoy getting out with my friends and family to go hunting. But I'm also not rich so that I can pay $500 just on license fees!
#34
So would the same logic apply to driver's licenses? Nonresidents purchase driver's licenses in the state where they pay taxes yet are free to drive all over Iowa's roads. Iowa doesn't have any tollroads so the taxpayers are paying for nonresidents to use their roads. What is the difference between a road and a state park?
200,000 out-of-state hunters blasting 4-5 pheasants a piece would virtually destroy the flock. As would 100,000 out of state deer hunters. It might take a few years, but it wouldn't be long before Iowa was known as a very bad place to hunt.
The IADNR, at the behest of the representatives of the people of Iowa, have determined that we don't want game in Iowa destructively effected by an "open border" licensing scheme. As such, non-resident hunting has been limited by both higher than resident fees and severe limits on available non-resident big game tags. These measures, while certainly frustrating to ex-patriot non-residents, are in place to ensure that Iowa is a good place to hunt for IOWANS. Every other state does similar things for the sake of the residents of their respective state.
I guess it boils down to this, it is the way it is because the residents of the respective states want it that way. Iowa is a better place to hunt FOR ME, an Iowan, because people like you, ex-pat or otherwise, have to pay more to hunt in Iowa. The same is true for you wherever you live. I pay $141 to rifle hunt in MN because that's how much the law says I must pay. You pay $500 to hunt in Iowa because that's what Iowa law says you must pay. You have no right to the natural resources in Iowa, any more than I have a right to the natural resources of MN. If there is disparity, that's just the way it is. Iowa doesn't care to lower non-resident fees, and doesn't care that you chose to move out of the state when your family didn't.
You can throw yourself on the floor and throw all the tantrums you want, but unless you choose to move back, then it is the way it is. Just think, if you lived here you could petition your representative to work to change the law... but you don't, so sorry about your luck.

Mike
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#35
You know what's really gonna burn your a$$? I have a disabled vet lifetime hunting and fishing license. It cost me $5.50... and I'm forever exempt from paying the annual habitat stamp fee. Would you like my license to be valid in your state?
Mike
Mike
#36
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Fork Horn
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So would the same logic apply to driver's licenses? Nonresidents purchase driver's licenses in the state where they pay taxes yet are free to drive all over Iowa's roads. Iowa doesn't have any tollroads so the taxpayers are paying for nonresidents to use their roads. What is the difference between a road and a state park?
#37
No, I understand completely what your point is, I just think that it's a stupid idea. If you really understood the obvious drawbacks to such an idea, you wouldn't support it, either. Unless you really are that stupid, then it simply wouldn't matter.
Mike
Mike
#38
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Fork Horn
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Why would that burn anyones ass? I would have no problem at all for a person that served our country to be able to come to my state on your $5.50 liscense and hunt or fish. You men and women helped to preserve our freedom, so that I am able to enjoy the great outdoors & it's resources. Mike, I want you to go back and read your last post. Do you see how bitter you sound? Nobody is trying to steal your deer away from you, nor are they wanting to hunt for free. Thank you for your service, but you sound like a jerk.
#39
A lot of what was said before maybe might have been posiable in the early years...........like the 60's and 70's. But now days, states realize that Whitetail hunting is a money maker, and they are going to cash in. Espeacialy in the midwest. Hunting Whitetail, espeacialy big Whitetail is quickley becoming a rich mans sport. And I really hate useing that phrase. The way I was raised, we hunted to eat, period. Yes, I love to hunt big bucks, but I put a lot of doe meat in the freezer.



