A Drury Question
 

I'm really not sure but I would think that they get paid. Sort of like sponsors, they go for the highest bid.

You can bet on it!
That's why all the best equip,and all the "plugs" about the equip!
They get paid big $

Drury Brothers =

Can't friggin stand those two. They absolutely disgust me.

Drury Brothers, Lee and Tiffany, Primos team, Chuck Adams, etc... etc... etc... most of the celebrity "hunters" are nothing more than product whores.

The bad thing is that I really want to get my daughter a Bow madness XS for Christmas this year but hate the fact that their name is on the bow.

I always wondered if they reallized how silly they looked hawking different products every year and proclaiming them the best out there. However then I figure... as much as they are getting paid and the fact that they get to hunt for a living.. they dont even care.They already sold out any integrity they had left years ago.....

I agree that all these shows are nothing more then infomericals for the products they sponser. Have them come to a small state like New Jersey on public land and lets see how good they are. Put anyone of us on the lands they hunt and we can score just like they do, and also we don't have the time like they do, we all have real jobs or some of us maybe out of work.

Good luck to you all and be safe

That is exactly what my husband says EVERY time we happen across one of their shows. But I was the one saying the people, other than the 2 Drury Dopes, get paid. He was arguing that they don't get anything. So you have answered my question and I appreciate the time. I hate them too, and I think it is a shame what they have done to the hunting world on a whole. I don't understand how 2 grown men can think that us regular people out here are as stupid as they would like to think, and that we would believe that all of a sudden, after how many years, PSE is the fastest, most accurate, most forgiviing, blah, blah, blah bow out there. Come on you guys. When is enough money going to be enough?!? They must be multi-millionaires by now. If they were any kind of hunters, they would have their favorite bows and such, and never even think of switching to the highest bidder, and it is SO obvious and evident to the viewers, most anyway, that that's all they do. They shoot the bow that pays them the most. BUT..... maybe Hoyt told them to take a walk. I would prefer to think that that is what happened.
But it really doesn't matter, they are all money mongers, NOT hunters. I don't give a flying hoot what's on their walls. Everyone of us would be capable of having a trophy wall like the one they constantly show in Lee and Tiffany's house - gag me with that show! - if we had their land, money and time. Well, enough ranting and raving, we just refuse to watch any of them anymore, and I hope they lose most of their viewers, but I fear there are still some who think all these guys and gals walk on water, so they will always have their DUMB shows. One more thing, I did see a show last week of the Drury's that they had listed as "NEW", and they had footage from 2 or 3 years ago - how lame! :rolleye0011:

Sounds to me like you are jealous of the life they live to me. They didnt always live this way-they busted their asses and became successfull. If its so easy as you claim, start your own hunting video line and products. Too kill someone for being a business person is not fare. They provide for their families as you and i do. why dont you take a peek at all the money they donate to charities such as their own charity, catch a dream. You are way off base in your comments. Do i get sick of the product plugs from different companies that sponsor them year to year- of course i do. You would do the same thing if you were in their shoes!!! Labeling people that provide hunting oppurtunitys to handicapped kids and others less fortunate as bad people or that they are somehow doing something wrong is moronic.

The Drury brothers had alot of money before their hunting shows, I think both are big time builders in Iowa. I like the fact they hunt free ranging deer, they are good hunters, but once more give any of us the land, the time and of course the money and we all can kill huge deer. Now take them or any of these so-called pros out of there element and place them on public land ( I say my home state of NJ) where there are many people hunting and not many big bucks and lets see if they can score on any deer. It must be nice to have someone do most of the pre-scouting, and hang stands for you, all you have to do is get in the stand and whack a deer.

Hunting has become big business, it's all about the "$$$$$" nothing more, but to think that the average Joe hunter can do what they do is a myth, cause like I have said, most of us don't have the time, money or the land like they do.

The best bow, gun, treestand, etc. out there is what you like for yourself...period

I am not a moron, as you eluded to in your post. Check your spelling too before you name-call. Like I said at the beginning of this post, I used to ENJOY watching the Drury DVDs, but lately they are getting to be a little much. They rave about HOYT and then switch to PSE??? I'm sorry, but I question that as big business, not talented hunting. Please do not tell me Lee and Tiffany BUSTED their rumps to get where they are. Give me a break, they aren't old enough to have busted anything. I am not jealous of them either. I am perfectly happy to go and scout and hang stands and cut shooting lanes and sit for hours because that's where all the enjoyment in hunting is. It isn't just popping into a stand somebody else scouted and hung for you, where's the fun in that? The Drury's used to be fun to watch, but as soon as they started having Dream Season and irresponsible hunters shooting bucks they were told specifically NOT to shoot, and more than once, they lost my respect. Granted it wasn't them, but they were responsible for those contestants and they never even addressed it on the DVD when they got kicked off the land they were hunting by the biologist. A regular to their show is John Frank, and if he isn't the biggest moron on television, I don't know who is. He says things and does things that are an embarassment to hunters. Why would you want him representing your name?
I am not "way off base" with my comments. They are my opinions and nothing more. While we are at it, tell me how many times they credit the Thompson kid for introducing them to Catch a Dream. It was all his idea, and the Drury's got it from him. I applaud them for taking less fortunate and sick children on hunts, but they have ridiculous fund raisers sometimes to do it. I watched the one season where Rick and Julie were having their fund raiser and they best they could do was "Rattling for Bucks". Give me a break, those two could just have donated cash or a hunt and it would have amounted to a whole lot more money. It shouldn't be a contest to see who can raise the most money, they should do it because they want to, like Thompson did. Instead they are rewarded with hunts for being the "winners". Where's the charity in that?
I will just turn the channel from now on and let others that enjoy them watch. That would be you. That's the beauty of America, you are free to change the channel - so far, anyway.

I have several times commented to my wife that all the work is taken out of it for them...just walk in there and whop a monster. And true, true any of us could do what many of the "pros" on hunting shows do. I don't necessarily consider them pros. Just average hunters who, for the most part, have above average marketability. If I had that opportunity, I would exploit it. The most professional hunter I know goes to church with me. He has never been on a show, endorsed a product or been on a guided hunt. However he knows how to scout, stalk and whack better than anyone I have seen on the tube. Of course he has been doing it for 30 years.

Do I fault the folks on tv that flaunt products and and consider 140" deer "management bucks"? Nope. I do enjoy other shows that seem more real life more though...The Spirit of the Wild baby! Ted Nugent was gaga over a 4 point he killed on his past show...and a 175 lb doe. We don't see enough of that. Love his show. There are others too, his just always comes to mind. I try to keep a running tab on how many times he says "backstraps" per show!

im sorry i just think you really picked the wrong people in the industry to find fault with. Lee Lakosky is a chemical engineer-not your average minimum wage, cake job. And last i knew Tiffany was still working as an airline stewardess. These folks still had everyday fulltime jobs working just like you and me. On top of that become one of the biggest names in the hunting industry. Granted they do on occasion hunt with an outfitter they still do the bulk of their hunting on their farm and their leases. They plant their own foodplots, scout their own property and hang their own stands just like you and I do. They manage their property to very high standards and reap the benefits. I cant find fault in that. You and i have the same oppurtunity in life to go out and achieve success, just as the Lakoskys and Drurys have done imo. As far as the Drurys go they to do the bulk of their hunting on their own farms. Not like others in the industry-Gregg miller, Stan Potts, HS Specialties hunters, Michael Wadell and the list goes on and on, of guys who almost strictly hunt with outfitters. I do agree it doesnt take much to go to an outfitter, have them put you in a stand and all you do is pull the trigger. You want to get on any of these types im right with you. I dont think the Drurys, Lakoskys and esp. the Kiskys fall into this category. Do they all plug their sponsors to the point of annoying, yes. But they have to-thats what the sponsor pays for. I do not like the big business side that corporate sponsors bring in the industry but thats the way it is. Folks in the industry long before the Drurys and Lakoskys became sponsor whores. Now its part of the industry-not their fault imo. As far as charity work goes-who cares how they raise the money. Charity golf tournaments and other sporting events are all contests/competitions that raise money for charity. Are all these bad too? How can any event fundraiser/event be ridiculous when its for charity????? And who cares if Mark and Terry didnt start catch a dream-tell me it isnt what it is because of their names and their work for it. Again i just really think you couldnt have picked worse people in the industry to label/judge than those you have imho. Why not get on Pat Reeve and Nicole Jones? They are strictly outfitter hunting morons.

agreed. i dont like them either

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While most of today's hunting shows have become over commercialized, it's what sells. Especially big bucks. These people have changed their lives to become successful at what they do. I find it hard to criticize them. If I watch their shows at all, I overlook the commercialism and focus on the deer and the hunt.

As for the part in bold............

First of all, there are a lot of people with the land, time and money that will never have a trophy room like theirs. It is not as easy as you think. Whenever someone says "If we/I had their X, Y and Z, yada, yada, yada", it reeks of jealousy. If you want something bad enough, instead of criticizing someone for their success, get off you're butt and do something about it. It is hard work and not everyone is willing or able to do it.

I agree 100% with your last comment about Reeves and his girlfriend. However, I have seen the Drury's go to many an outfitter. I have also seen them get into a stand and notice lanes haven't been cut and the blame the time I saw it went to Jarred. I guess Mark and Terry were off that day from the work part of it. ANYWAY, I will repeat myself once again, I used to enjoy watching the Drury's. I have all the Dream Season's up until the "professional couples" one, and the Whitetail madness ones up to #11. I enjoyed them at one time. When they came out this year with PSE as their bow, they lost me. I am of the opinion that they now have enough money to shoot the bow that is the best fit for them, and I am sorry if i offend any PSE shooters, PSE is not that bow. There are Hoyt, Mathews, BowTech, etc that I would imagine most people would place above PSE. My problem with them is I think in the years since their business took off, they have gotten sloppy. Example #1 PSE, #2 shooting bucks way too small and deliberately disobeying an outfitter, #3 never addressing the fact that those guys that did that were morons. I am no longer a fan and am disappointed once again because it's always about the $. For once i would like to see someone use a bow because they believe it to be the BEST.
As far as Lee and Tiffany, I see you like them and that's fine. I do not think their show is worth watching, but I will say I hung in there and watched it longer than my husband did, he quit a while ago. With the fundraising, how about they just go about it quietly and spend more time showing the kids that benefit from it than themselves and all the pomp and circumstance with the fundraisers. It's always nice to do something and not need to see your name in lights, IMHO.


We still watch TED and we saw that episode with the 4 point and 175 pound doe last night. We enjoy him as long as he's not hunting some African species:)

I agree 100% Greg-Im so tired of people saying the same crap- Get off your ass and prove it. Then come tell me its easy.
I agree with you about the whole PSE switch. I used to shoot a PSE back in the day when they were THE bow to shoot. They became a chain catalog product and their company went down the crapper for it. They became a bottom of the barrel bow company and like you believed they got in with the Drury guys as an attempt to salvage their company. I shoot a hoyt now and was also disappointed with themswitching to PSE. No question in my mind whats better-and it is hard to watch them promote PSE after claiming how great Hoyt was. And if they get a better deal from Martin, Bear, or any other company thats looking for a way to promote their bows, they will then be shooting that. Its business-i dont like it but i dont judge their show solely by that. Thats the industry they are in. I still enjoy the hunting aspects of these shows and do respect their knowledge on the sport. If you like the drurys and dont like the commercialism i highly reccomend reading their book, Giant Whitetails-a lifetime of lessons. Imo it is one of the better hunting books ive ever read(and ive read alot of them). The lessons learned chapters are very informative and contain ALOT of good info. Check it out if you get a chance. I agree with you about not needing a pat on the back for doin charity work or make it known you did it. I think they do a pretty decent job and dont get the feeling they are looking to promote themeselves via charity work-but i do see how sum1 could think otherwise. As far as Ted Nugent, i like him and think he does a great deal for our sport. That bein said i cant stand his show. His spiritual bs and magnificent beast crap is way over the top imo.And talk about commercialism!! Ted is a product whore too!! I got so sick of hearing about magnus stinger broadheads i couldnt stand it. But its the industry. To each his own-at least we live somewhere where we can choose what we want to watch and agree to disagree!!

:hail: exactly what i was thinking.. people don't relize that they have to do the work to get the reward, for example they pass on the small, and even some big deer because they havent reached their full potential... if everyone did that ( which is VERY hard to do) people would have no problem seeing huge deer..and deer are smart animals...its not like the deer they shoot are more stupid than the ones all of us shoot... i wouldnt be surprised at all if they could go on public land and still shoot a deer. it might not be as big as some on the show, but i truly believe they could do it.

Uncle Ted's over the top antics do get annoying at times, but he is a hunter through and through. Hunts with reasons other than trophy...that is great! Seems consistent with the sponsors he is far too devoted to...as stated, they all over-market out of necessity. I look past that on all shows. I can enjoy pretty much all the shows out there, but the ones where the biggest trophy isn't the leading factor interest me much more. But, size sells. There is good, one way or another, in all of them imo.

Bottom line is everyone of the tv personalities are business men and/or women FIRST. When someone like the Drury brothers constantly switch brands year after year it means it all works well enough to kill a deer and we should quit buying in to the salesmanship. Lets go back to bear whitetail II and alluminum arrows, and sitting on the ground. If you dont like the Drury brothers (and I'm with you) or primos or Waddell or you ever dont watch them.

I love them all I don't care what they use ! or what type or brand just hunt and be happy are coutry still lets us hunt ! Mark and Terry used Hoyt bow for ever ! Then they went to PSE big deal . I buy a new bow every 2 years . I had a HOYT a bowtech a nugebow by renagade tryed the SBD by renagade ,PSE, a Parker ,Marten and I loved all them bow's and they got the job done . I'm now back to Fred Bear using the Truth 2 I love this bow and feel Will Primo did a great job ! But I'm going to buy a Mattew Mc'preison [spelling ?] Mattews Reison . But I have to give a big thank you to Tiff from the Crush and Shamain Nugent Teds wife after being maired for 20 years my wife is starting to show she wants to hunt and I been trying to get her to hunt sence we were dating ! Now that ole boy Mike Waddell he's my hero ! I don't care if some one wants to make a ass out of them selfs on tv like the guy on the Durys show your talking about . It sure make the summer go fast to get back hunting and I won't put none of these people down . And they were all there when I was in the Medical care for 6 mouths on tv . Stop complaining and just have fun ,its not that big of a deal what they do or use . Your reading to far into it .

I must be in the minority then, because I truly believe that Drurys, HBTV, and Primos put on the best shows around.

Okay, I didn't mean to get everybody's blood boiling, including my own, lol. We can change the channel and all have different opinions of people and their shows. By the way, my husband has read the Drury book and all of Ted Nugent's books. This thread started out as a question about whether or not people like John Frank(UGH!) and the Probsts, get paid for their appearances on the Drury DVDs. I say yes, John says no. I know the Drury's are paid by all of their sponsors, but are the others?
As far as the Drury shows, I think they have dropped the ball and their former years on DVD are a world apart from the ones now. I won't watch the new, but I will watch the ones I own, and there are quite a few of them. I am sorry if i stepped on anybody's toes. This is America and so far, anyway, we are all free to choose. We, as hunters, should concentrate more on our rights being taken away and important issues like that and never mind these silly shows. My bad for starting the post, but in my defense, I wanted to prove to my husband that these guys were not hunting for no compensation. How would their families survive without their paychecks in this crazy world we live in??

P.S. I am not jealous of them. I love living and hunting where I am - especially since there is a BIG 10 point in our area to hunt - but I do look forward to retiring somewhere other than New York. I'm getting old and the bones can't take the cold anymore:)

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Agreed, 100 %. :cool2::cool2::deer:

Yeah,but it's better than drowning in Florida-hurricanes-, burning in California-brushfires-, or being blown to smitherines in Oklahoma-tornadoes. One thing I enjoy about our winters, come spring, my house is still here:cool2:

I have to agree with the comments about bringing them out to NJ to hunt. Same with the High Peaks in the Adirondacks. THAT will give them a lesson in humility. Bottom line though: it IS { Drury's, Primos, etc } nothing more than entertainment.:s2::p

i like the drury shows compared to the rest but your right about the shows!! they should show them kiilling bucks that we would normally shoot instead of every time they kill one its a 150 monster....

i like most of the shows now days, and buy a few dvd's.i will watch whatever, sometimes promoting products can be a pain. its just like everything else on tv promoting products....every channel has a commercial that has some celebrity trying to sell something. IMO hunting should be fun filled time with friends anf family and enjoying the outdoors, in most of the videos and shows thats what i see happening.

Guys, you have to admit that given the opportunity you might do the same only in a better way. Or not. Either way I think they should do alot more for the kids today because with out them our future in hunting will disapear.. And they will all have to pay big money to shoot the big boys as they walk out of their cage at some ranch. To the first comment yes I am getting sick of the same old thing as well. We should all start up a show that is for state land hunters, where do you think that would end up, if we were working with charities?

for those of you thinking they can't come to your state and kill a monster you are right! they can't! THEY CAN'T BECAUSE YOU SHOOT THEM BEFORE THEY GET BIG!!! Let those young deer grow up you too will have mature deer. which is the real trophy, not how big it score's. Make's me sick to hear you guys crying because this guy is getting paid do what he love's and i stuck in the sewer plant sucking hind tit.
GROW UP!:violin:

I'm actually shocked that this group of people are being bashed so hard. There is another thread on here bashing the Warren brothers for hunting high fence operations and I agree with that. As for the Drury brothers, Lee and Tiffany, Don and Candy Kiskey (Spelling?) most of them actually have worked hard to an extent.

The Drury brothers were some of the pioneers that started the whole TV/DVD hunting series. Pretty much everyone that has responded said they liked the DVD/TV shows at one time. As for the advertising I do not like the constant plugs, but advertising pays the bills and if a company sponsors you, you have an obligation to plug their products. Every Sports program from NASCAR to the NFL has seen a huge increase in advertising. As for the contestants on Dream Season getting paid I am not 100% sure, but I would imagine they would have to as they are not at work for nearly 90 days.

As for Lee and Tiffany, I think one of their families had farm land in Iowa and Lee was an engineer (real job) he took a risk and quit to do the TV deer hunting show. He worked his butt off to do the food plots and let the deer get big so that they could film them hunting big bucks.

Don and Candy Kiskey were farmers in Iowa and liked to hunt and got into the whole food plot/letting the little guys walk phenomenon and started doing a TV show, then they got together with Lee and Tiffany and the rest is history.

I said it on the other thread and I will say it here. If you do not feel like it is realistic to watch shows where they have all these opportunities to kill big bucks and you want to watch a TV show watch the Best and Worst of Tred Barta on VS. He is a radical primitive hunter (from NY I think) and hunts a lot of public land and wide open spaces (in Alaska) with a long bow and often stone arrow heads. I would honestly say the way he hunts most people could not be successful. In fact in a lot of his shows he comes up empty handed.

As if i didn't write enough last time I forgot to touch on one part of the thread.

This is sadly too true, especially on public land, which I hunt. Too often I have told fellow hunters I see in the woods that I passed a 4 pt or a spike only to be chastised for passing a deer with bone on his head. When I ask why they say "If I were you I would have shot that, because someone else will." Ironically I live in a state that allows you to kill over 300 deer in a season (3 does a day) and these same guys will not shoot does (no sport it seems). I hunt for meat mainly and the love of the sport, but i have tried to be more conscious of letting little bucks walk with the hope that we may have more opportunities to kill a big buck even on public land. It is more challenging to shoot a mature doe then it is to shoot a baby buck IMO. If people let more little deer walk there would be more mature deer in the woods.

If you're out there to put meat in the freezer then that is fine. Shoot whatever crosses your path, but don't put down the people that trophy hunt and don't think for one second that if any of us had a chance to get paid to hunt for a living we would not be all over that.

Wow Wow Wow, Whats wrong with everyone here. I am true walk the trails find the sign hunters from WI. If I had a chance to own a 2000 acre farm and given all the equip. Then told hey you shoot this bow and shoot this arrow. We'll pay ya. Then drop our name 5 times in your braodcast and we'll pay ya. ALL OF YOU WOULD DO IT. Come on they are living the hunters dream and your knockin them. Come on for real Stop the BS.

So they worked hard to gain hunting recognition.
Finally made the big time.
And then shouldn't be paid to continue there success...

Doesn't sound very American to me??!!

Over advertising erks me too, but I can tell you, if someone wanted to give me a bag of cash I probably wouldn't turn it down, as long as I could sleep at night?!!

I used to think that there were bucks around every tree "EVERYWHERE" else but my woods, but a lot more work and wa-la - Bucks! I live in NH so understand your NY hunting conditions, as it's no place like Kansas Dorothy:)

So now to your question... I have, quietly, boycotted many DVD's as there nothing like NH hunting, so until then, I'll watch my own!

Plenty of mature deer where I hunt. I AM curious why the show people don't come here - High Peaks, VT. or NH. to get them. Then again, anyone who does hunt here knows that answer!:s6::)

If you look at any sport, sponsorship is the major portion of a celebrities income. Look at Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, etc...each is a legend in their sport no different that of hunting. Only difference in hunting is they tend to switch sponsors either due to one company cutting expenses or another offering more.

I would say its no different in hunting, however its not as big as a business as golf or basketball.