Boycott Wisconsin
05-01-2003 | 02:19 PM
#52
Nontypical Buck
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From: Wisconsin
RE: Boycott Wisconsin
Bowfanatic, we shouldn' t go around taking things away from hunters and then asking them to PROVE that it didn' t cause this or that. There should be some proof that baiting does in fact cause the spread of CWD before it' s taken away. But there isn' t any!
Ah , the sit around and wait to see approach. I' m certainly glad that type of logic doesn' t prevail in our Dept of Natural Resources!
So , are you saying your own dept of natural resources doesn' t appreciate the proactive approach that Wisconsin is taking?
Btw , the over population theory doesn' t wash! Look where this desease was originally detected (Colorado) over thirty years ago. Do you think Colorado had an over population of mule deer and elk? Not hardly!
05-01-2003 | 02:50 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Rifle, Colorado
RE: Boycott Wisconsin
Btw , the over population theory doesn' t wash! Look where this desease was originally detected (Colorado) over thirty years ago
05-01-2003 | 04:46 PM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Boycott Wisconsin
Short-Range, No we will probably never get rid of but we certainly don' t have to contribute to it.
odocoileus virginianus,
Ok, really, does any body actually read what is posted? Go back to page two of this thread and read my previous post. It' s in RED so you can' t miss it. Click on the links on the page also.
Here is some more for you guys that " stuck on stupid."
A report by Timothy R. Van Deelen Ph.D (WI DNR) on scientific support for a ban of baiting and feeding of deer
Summary
Reliable science provides support for a ban of baiting and feeding of white-tailed deer to reduce disease risks for Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD). Peer-reviewed research papers published in reputable scientific journals indicate the following:
· CWD is transmitted laterally (live diseased deer infect other deer)
· Deer can get CWD by ingesting something contaminated with the disease prion
· CWD prions may be shed in feces and saliva
· Disease course and symptoms indicate high potential for transmission where deer are concentrated
· Evidence from captive situations indicates that deer can get CWD from highly contaminated environments.
· Baiting and Feeding causes unnatural concentration of deer
· Reduction of contact through a ban on baiting and feeding is likely very important to eradicating or containing a CWD outbreak.
· Baiting and feeding continues to put Wisconsin’s deer herd at risk to other serious diseases
In addition, experts in CWD, wildlife disease and deer nutrition support bans on baiting and feeding as part of a comprehensive strategy to prevent and/or manage CWD.
Under a baiting and feeding ban, disease outbreaks are more likely to be smaller in scale and more apt to be contained or eliminated. With the long CWD incubation period and other factors that make discovery of a new outbreak difficult, an outbreak that is already widespread when detected because of baiting and feeding may not be able to be contained or eliminated.
from the Wildlife Managment Institute and National Shooting Sports Foundation.
How is it spread?
It is not known exactly how CWD is spread. It is believed that the
agent responsible for the disease may be spread both directly
(animal to animal contact) and indirectly (soil or other surface to
animal). It is thought that the most common mode of transmission
from an infected animal is via saliva and feces.
Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
It is not known exactly how CWD is transmitted. The agent may be passed by infected animals in feces, urine or saliva, but considerable contact is probably required for transmission to occur. CWD appears more likely in areas where elk or deer are crowded or where they congregate. Artificial feeding of wild elk and deer may compound the spreading of CWD. Animals born in captivity and those born in the wild have been affected with the disease. Based on epidemiology, transmission of CWD is thought to be lateral or from animal to animal; although maternal transmission may occur, it appears to be relatively unimportant in maintaining epidemics.
odocoileus virginianus,
Bowfanatic, we shouldn' t go around taking things away from hunters and then asking them to PROVE that it didn' t cause this or that. There should be some proof that baiting does in fact cause the spread of CWD before it' s taken away. But there isn' t any!
It' s amazing to see how easily people will give something up with no proof that it' s the cause
It' s amazing to see how easily people will give something up with no proof that it' s the cause
Here is some more for you guys that " stuck on stupid."
A report by Timothy R. Van Deelen Ph.D (WI DNR) on scientific support for a ban of baiting and feeding of deer
Summary
Reliable science provides support for a ban of baiting and feeding of white-tailed deer to reduce disease risks for Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD). Peer-reviewed research papers published in reputable scientific journals indicate the following:
· CWD is transmitted laterally (live diseased deer infect other deer)
· Deer can get CWD by ingesting something contaminated with the disease prion
· CWD prions may be shed in feces and saliva
· Disease course and symptoms indicate high potential for transmission where deer are concentrated
· Evidence from captive situations indicates that deer can get CWD from highly contaminated environments.
· Baiting and Feeding causes unnatural concentration of deer
· Reduction of contact through a ban on baiting and feeding is likely very important to eradicating or containing a CWD outbreak.
· Baiting and feeding continues to put Wisconsin’s deer herd at risk to other serious diseases
In addition, experts in CWD, wildlife disease and deer nutrition support bans on baiting and feeding as part of a comprehensive strategy to prevent and/or manage CWD.
Under a baiting and feeding ban, disease outbreaks are more likely to be smaller in scale and more apt to be contained or eliminated. With the long CWD incubation period and other factors that make discovery of a new outbreak difficult, an outbreak that is already widespread when detected because of baiting and feeding may not be able to be contained or eliminated.
from the Wildlife Managment Institute and National Shooting Sports Foundation.
How is it spread?
It is not known exactly how CWD is spread. It is believed that the
agent responsible for the disease may be spread both directly
(animal to animal contact) and indirectly (soil or other surface to
animal). It is thought that the most common mode of transmission
from an infected animal is via saliva and feces.
Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
It is not known exactly how CWD is transmitted. The agent may be passed by infected animals in feces, urine or saliva, but considerable contact is probably required for transmission to occur. CWD appears more likely in areas where elk or deer are crowded or where they congregate. Artificial feeding of wild elk and deer may compound the spreading of CWD. Animals born in captivity and those born in the wild have been affected with the disease. Based on epidemiology, transmission of CWD is thought to be lateral or from animal to animal; although maternal transmission may occur, it appears to be relatively unimportant in maintaining epidemics.
05-01-2003 | 05:44 PM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Boycott Wisconsin
Well it seems that all ef the experts on this matter are in total agreement that the most likley way that CWD is spread is through saliva, feces, and urine. They are also in agreement that high concentration of deer and elk accelerate the spread of the disease and that baiting and feeding of deer and elk promotes these unnatural congregations of deer and elk.
Maybe I' m crazy for thinking this but I think I will listen to the collective findings of all of these experts that actually have the funds and are out there doing the research to fight CWD as opposed to the few pissed off guys that have done absolutely no research what so ever.
In fact I challenge anyone to find supporting evidence that baiting and feeding of deer and elk has no effect on the spreading of CWD!! I' ve given you guys plenty of supporting evidence and you have given back SQUAT unless you consider gryping about it evidence.
Maybe I' m crazy for thinking this but I think I will listen to the collective findings of all of these experts that actually have the funds and are out there doing the research to fight CWD as opposed to the few pissed off guys that have done absolutely no research what so ever.
In fact I challenge anyone to find supporting evidence that baiting and feeding of deer and elk has no effect on the spreading of CWD!! I' ve given you guys plenty of supporting evidence and you have given back SQUAT unless you consider gryping about it evidence.
05-01-2003 | 07:18 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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From: Wisconsin/Michigan
RE: Boycott Wisconsin
It' s in RED so you can' t miss it
