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RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: BetterBirddogs As a guy who breeds, raises, and trains and field trials pointers I have no sympathy for your buddy or his dog. My dogs are very valuable. Having said that, I go to great lengths to make sure my dogs stay in their kennels. They are on a raised deck platform so they can't dig out and my kennels are charged with a fence charger so they can't climb out. If my dogs get out and get killed then thats a ME problem. I'm so tired of dog owners not taking ownership for their animals who are out wondering around. Bad deal for your neighbor but maybe he'll work harder to keep his new dog in the yard where it belongs. |
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
You know, I have many dogs. They are AKC registered field trial beagles. If one of them by chance ever got out (hasn't happened yet but who knows) and ran across a property line and got shot, that's just tough. I should have kept him under control, or I should have maintained their kennel better, or I should have put a fence around my property, in any case, they are my responsibility and if they leave my control, then I have not been a responsible pet owner and it would be my fault if they got shot or hit by a car or whatever else.
I just don't understand how someone could just let their animals roam all over other people's land and do whatever they want unchecked and expect that everything will always turn out for the best. You wouldn't try free range farming these days would you? Let your chickens, cows, or pigs just roam through the neighborhood through people's yards and and across public roads and expect everything to be ok right? Because they're valuable and you want to keep them safe? Not just from "bad hunters" but safe from hostile wildlife and other dangers. It's the same thing with dogs. If you want to keep them safe, keep them on your own property where they belong. You wouldn'tthrow your trash into your neighbor's yard, you wouldn't let a control burn spread onto your neighbor's yard, you wouldn't store your valuables in a stranger's yard, so why would you think it's any different with a pet? |
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: Wiggy You know, I have many dogs. They are AKC registered field trial beagles. If one of them by chance ever got out (hasn't happened yet but who knows) and ran across a property line and got shot, that's just tough. I should have kept him under control, or I should have maintained their kennel better, or I should have put a fence around my property, in any case, they are my responsibility and if they leave my control, then I have not been a responsible pet owner and it would be my fault if they got shot or hit by a car or whatever else. I just don't understand how someone could just let their animals roam all over other people's land and do whatever they want unchecked and expect that everything will always turn out for the best. You wouldn't try free range farming these days would you? Let your chickens, cows, or pigs just roam through the neighborhood through people's yards and and across public roads and expect everything to be ok right? Because they're valuable and you want to keep them safe? Not just from "bad hunters" but safe from hostile wildlife and other dangers. It's the same thing with dogs. If you want to keep them safe, keep them on your own property where they belong. You wouldn'tthrow your trash into your neighbor's yard, you wouldn't let a control burn spread onto your neighbor's yard, you wouldn't store your valuables in a stranger's yard, so why would you think it's any different with a pet? |
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
Let me pipe in here a little bit... In our town dogs are free to roam, yes free to roam. I have a nieghbor that lets her dog do just that. It dumps in my yard all the time, it barks at us in our yard. I raise a few elk and it runs up and down the fence harrassing them. I have been in my tree stand with it barking at me after he followd me in the woods. I killed a buck one day and by the time I got to it, the dog already helped himself to the hind quarter. So I said something to them in a nice way. Then I had a deer hanging in my barn and he helped himself to a front quarter. Then I said something in a not so nice way. The dog still runs and does whatever it wants to. Because dogs have the freedom to roam. Is it the dogs fault, no. will the dog pay the price, soon.
I don't want to shoot a dog just because it ran through my property, but at this time the 3 S rules will come into effect..... |
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
But, usually, a dog running loose isn't because of a dog breaking barriers and escaping, it's because of a negligent owner who thinks his only responsibilities as a dog owner are to feed and water it regularly, and whatever it does otherwise it's just doing it because "it's what dogs do." I think if you're in the middle of "nowhere" there stands a better chance of it being a wild dog rather than somebodys pet that got loose.At the same time, as someone already mentioned, if a person REALLY CARES about their family pet they would/should take the proper, maybe even extrememeasures to make certain that animal does not get loose. Shooting a dog for no reason is about one of the most damaging things a hunter can do. Also I have free range chickens and ducks, any canine seen around them will be dispatched, If my chicken makes it onto YOUR property, you have a free dinner :) Back about 15 years |
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
true story.
I was at a friends house out on a farm, were drinking adult soda's and this neighbor comes drivng up the drive, gets out and starts yelling your dog this, dog that, ate my chickens blah blah blah,next time I am going to shoot him. My friend says hold on and goes inside, comes back out with a .22 rifle, guy looks scared, my friend hands him the rifle and says why wait till next time, here shoot him now. Dude doesnt know what to say but says ahh come on man I cant shoot your dog. Friend grabs the gun calls him a kitty and unoads on his dog killing it. He says we cant have chicken eating dogs around here, problem solved. |
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
I can't beleive that....[:'(][:@]
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RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: Redskin_Archer So I have neighbor with two black labs, one really old, one two years old. I saw him in his yard went over to talk. He voice was real horse. He'd been looking for the two year old lab. It got out mid morning. told him I'd look for it. It was found the next day... shot in the back leg with a slug. It was on it's way home but has bleed to death....To me as a hunter this is unacceptable. The area I live in is somewhat developed we're not out in the sticks. A person who shots a known pet dog should no longer hunt. |
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
Guys I respect all of your opinions...I just wanted to see where a large amount of hunters viewed this topic. It is a touchy subject, take away from it what you will... for me:
#1 obviously, try your best to keep your dog in your yard, has not been a problem for me but gotta keep making sure it isn't one. #2 hunt as if everyone is watching... |
RE: Neighbor's dog shot
ORIGINAL: zrexpilot true story. I was at a friends house out on a farm, were drinking adult soda's and this neighbor comes drivng up the drive, gets out and starts yelling your dog this, dog that, ate my chickens blah blah blah,next time I am going to shoot him. My friend says hold on and goes inside, comes back out with a .22 rifle, guy looks scared, my friend hands him the rifle and says why wait till next time, here shoot him now. Dude doesnt know what to say but says ahh come on man I cant shoot your dog. Friend grabs the gun calls him a kitty and unoads on his dog killing it. He says we cant have chicken eating dogs around here, problem solved. Sound no different than these punks in baltimore city trying to make sure everyone knows they are hard. Its a proven fact, there is something deranged about someone who would do something like this. |
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