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snedd162 04-29-2008 06:06 PM

ted nugent
 
i was just wondering what everyone's feeling were about ted nugent, i love his show spirit of the wild but i also feel as if he has a screw loose sometimes. i would like to know how you feel about him as a hunter, a musician, anything. how would you compare him to other hunters you see on tv.

BOWHUNTERCOP 04-29-2008 06:11 PM

RE: ted nugent
 
He is just average as a hunter. He has the time and money to hunt whereever he wants for whatever he wants, as a musician he is just average also, there are so many more people who play guitar better. Overall both asa hunter and a rocker Ted is great for the sport and the music world. What I question is that he has so many endoresments....One day is this bow, next day is that bow, that alone shows he isn't like the others on TV

AR Bowhunter 04-29-2008 07:05 PM

RE: ted nugent
 
I have nothing bad to say about someone whom stands up for us.

Steve863 04-30-2008 06:29 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
By far the worst spokesman that hunters could possibly have. Many non-hunters view hunters as one step short of being barbarians, and Ted Nugent surely doesn't do anything to help correct that image. He is nothing but a loud mouth, long haired lunatic.



cr422 04-30-2008 06:42 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
Yep, Nugent is loud and sometimes a little abrasive. Even so, he can't offset those of us who act like little girls afraid to offend the anti-gun, anti-hunting clowns. We've allowed ourselves to become a minority of weenies.

Steve863 04-30-2008 07:26 AM

RE: ted nugent
 

Yep, Nugent is loud and sometimes a little abrasive. Even so, he can't offset those of us who act like little girls afraid to offend the anti-gun, anti-hunting clowns. We've allowed ourselves to become a minority of weenies.
One needs to counter the anti-hunting crowd with someone who looks and acts like a half-way decent and intelligent human being. Ted Nugent does nothing other than give the anti crowd more fuel to their fire that hunters are nothing but a bunch of barbaric bafoons!! He has NO respectablity whatsoever, and he just makes hunters an even bigger laughing stock.

skb2706 04-30-2008 07:32 AM

RE: ted nugent
 

ORIGINAL: Steve863


Yep, Nugent is loud and sometimes a little abrasive. Even so, he can't offset those of us who act like little girls afraid to offend the anti-gun, anti-hunting clowns. We've allowed ourselves to become a minority of weenies.
One needs to counter the anti-hunting crowd with someone who looks and acts like a half-way decent and intelligent human being. Ted Nugent does nothing other than give the anti crowd more fuel to their fire that hunters are nothing but a bunch of barbaric bafoons!! He has NO respectablity whatsoever, and he just makes hunters an even bigger laughing stock.
Luckily we are not left for you to decide what is half way decent (whatever that is) , intelligent or how someone looks. He does more for hunting than internet whiners. nuff said

saxman1 04-30-2008 07:54 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
As a hunter he is far better than I,money or no money.As a musician(Which I am one also)I will admit there are far better guitar players(But that too is subject to the listener and what he/she likes)He has found a market for his type of music and has stayed there,Very smart if you ask me,He dosent claim to be mister guitar hero,just a rock -n-roller and I like him for that,as far as his being a spokesman,I dont care who he offends,I like his style of putting the real deal out there and the fact that he has the guts to be who he is,look the way he wants and he puts his money where his mouth is.
I dont speak that way or look that way and that is my business and I feel the way he speaks and looks is his business.I too have a problem listening to all the sponsers on the show but I understand TV shows are expensive to make so all in all.
YOU GO TED:D:D

Steve863 04-30-2008 08:02 AM

RE: ted nugent
 

Luckily we are not left for you to decide what is half way decent (whatever that is) , intelligent or how someone looks.
You are right, it isn't up to me. It will be up to the non-hunters to decide the future of hunting in this country since we will never be in the majority. I can assure you that Nugent is doing NOTHING for the sport or our image in the eyes of non-hunters.


SteveBNy 04-30-2008 08:05 AM

RE: ted nugent
 

ORIGINAL: Steve863


Luckily we are not left for you to decide what is half way decent (whatever that is) , intelligent or how someone looks.
You are right, it isn't up to me. It will be up to the non-hunters to decide the future of hunting in this country since we will never be in the majority. I can assure you that Nugent is doing NOTHING for the sport or our image in the eyes of non-hunters.
X1!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve

skb2706 04-30-2008 08:57 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
again I can argue that Teddy does more for hunting than you do.

wahoohunter 04-30-2008 09:27 AM

RE: ted nugent
 

ORIGINAL: Steve863


Luckily we are not left for you to decide what is half way decent (whatever that is) , intelligent or how someone looks.
You are right, it isn't up to me. It will be up to the non-hunters to decide the future of hunting in this country since we will never be in the majority. I can assure you that Nugent is doing NOTHING for the sport or our image in the eyes of non-hunters.
I agree with you on this point. I was recently reading an article that was promoting buying/eating local and was thus promoting things such as farming and hunting. The article was written by a non-hunter who believed hunting is essential in providing local food, which is a good point. HoWeVeR, in his pro-hunting article he stated something along the lines of, "now with hunting, we're not talking about the whack-em-and-stack-em Ted Nugent approach." Uncle Ted may do a lot to promote the anti anti-gun scene and he may be fun to watch, however, amongst the non hunting community, even those who promote hunting, he doesn't do too much for us

HuNTaSWaP 04-30-2008 09:28 AM

RE: ted nugent
 

ORIGINAL: snedd162

i was just wondering what everyone's feeling were about ted nugent, i love his show spirit of the wild but i also feel as if he has a screw loose sometimes. i would like to know how you feel about him as a hunter, a musician, anything. how would you compare him to other hunters you see on tv.
I would agree on the screw loose, but I love his various flavors of verbiage. He has all these ways of saying things that are very colorful, and I first saw that on SuperGroup. He does love his hunting, and I wonder if it's just because he loves to cook the meat.

As far as a musician, I saw him a while back. He wails on the guitar and is a madman on stage, but he's got derek doing all the singing, except where he pops in for a few lines of Stranglehold or something. I think it's more of an attention thing than anything. He seems to love his attention, and a friend of mine said she read that he actually stopped a guy out in the desert or something, who was pulled over on the side of the road, and accosted him for wearing a Ted Nugent T-shirt. Made him take it off claiming "copyright infringement." Don't know the truth to that one, but we're back to the loose screw again.

In SuperGroup he woke the guys up early one morning with loud guitar, and one of the other guy was angry about it. Ted referred to his waking hours as 'militant,' which I thought a little weird since he had gone and lived in the hills by himself to avoid the draft. That's hardly anything to do with the military.

Also he was a terrible husband and cheater for most of his career. Now he's settled down with a woman who apparently keeps him in line. That's not to say he's not a good dad; he very protective of his girls and seems to have a great relationship with them. I suspect most of their raising was done by mom though.

my 2 ยข

bugsNbows 04-30-2008 10:38 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
A little of Uncle Ted goes a long way. Not a fan of his music either. Sometimes, I think he's got more dollars than sense!

Tuco 04-30-2008 01:29 PM

RE: ted nugent
 
I for one could care less about what the "anti-hunters" think of us hunters. You will never change their mind. Now somebody that has no opinion, that may be a little different. I think Ted has the guts to say what most of us really think. As far as the the anti-hunters....they can Kiss My ASS.


>>>BAM<<<

wahoohunter 04-30-2008 02:03 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

ORIGINAL: Tuco

I for one could care less about what the "anti-hunters" think of us hunters. You will never change their mind. Now somebody that has no opinion, that may be a little different. I think Ted has the guts to say what most of us really think. As far as the the anti-hunters....they can Kiss My ASS.

Is this a joke? Instead of wanting to enlighten the anti-hunting community and present them with facts as to how hunters help everyone from vegetarians to omnivores you're going to plead arrogance and create the exact situation that gets hunters in trouble?

Steve863 04-30-2008 02:22 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

Is this a joke? Instead of wanting to enlighten the anti-hunting community and present them with facts as to how hunters help everyone from vegetarians to omnivores you're going to plead arrogance and create the exact situation that gets hunters in trouble?
Couldn't agree more. If some of the animal right activists want to act like lunatics, why do hunters have to? We should strive to be better than them and act like normal people would expect one to act when presenting ones opinions or views. It really disturbs me that there are so many hunters out there who think Nugent is doing hunters a benefit. This tells me that there are way too many hunters who are either too immature to know the difference OR hunters as a group are simply as crazy as Nugent. If either is true than we really have no one to blame than ourselves for our bad reputations in my opinion, and it won't be getting better any time soon.

skb2706 04-30-2008 02:23 PM

RE: ted nugent
 
You're kidding yourself if you think you are doing more to promote hunting than Teddy.

cjwink 04-30-2008 02:29 PM

RE: ted nugent
 
I see old Ted as the Ann Coulter of the hunting world.. I agree with most of what he says.. Sometimes he can take it too far.. But liberalism and anti-hunting is a deases called RDS (Reasoning Definciency Syndrome) No matter how much you present them with the facts they will not be able to see the reasoning..

shamlin 04-30-2008 02:42 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

ORIGINAL: wahoohunter


ORIGINAL: Tuco

I for one could care less about what the "anti-hunters" think of us hunters. You will never change their mind. Now somebody that has no opinion, that may be a little different. I think Ted has the guts to say what most of us really think. As far as the the anti-hunters....they can Kiss My ASS.

Is this a joke? Instead of wanting to enlighten the anti-hunting community and present them with facts as to how hunters help everyone from vegetarians to omnivores you're going to plead arrogance and create the exact situation that gets hunters in trouble?
I dont think you will change their mind either, no matter how much proof you present to them as far as how hunting is benefical to the enviroment, and how hunters are the best conservationist. None of it will matter, to them all they see is us shooting innoscent little woodland critters. They simply dont beleive in killing animals, that is what hunting is. I dont think Ted Nugent makes them hate us any worse or less. As for most people on the fence, they probally have never seen his program.

Steve863 04-30-2008 02:43 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

You're kidding yourself if you think you are doing more to promote hunting than Teddy.
Who made the claim that I was doing more or less? I am no celebrity. At least I am not harming it as publically as he is.

Steve863 04-30-2008 02:46 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

I dont think you will change their mind either, no matter how much proof you present to them as far as how hunting is benefical to the enviroment, and how hunters are the best conservationist. None of it will matter, to them all they see is us shooting innoscent little woodland critters. They simply dont beleive in killing animals, that is what hunting is. I dont think Ted Nugent makes them hate us any worse or less. As for most people on the fence, they probally have never seen his program.
These people on the fence don't have to watch his program only. He has been on the air on numerous mainstream programs where he showed everyone what he is all about. It wasn't pretty to say the least.

Charlie P 04-30-2008 02:57 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

Now he's settled down with a woman who apparently keeps him in line.
LOl, he has anillegitment child while married to Shemane.

Paul L Mohr 04-30-2008 03:38 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

ORIGINAL: skb2706

again I can argue that Teddy does more for hunting than you do.
You could argue it, but it wouldn't necessarily make it true.

Do a search for his name, this subject comes up about every month or so, maybe more. You either like him, or you don't.

What I do know is he doesn't represent me as a hunter and I have no problem letting people know it. I bet there are people you have never heard of that do far more for our hunting and gun rights than Ted has ever done. I bet most of the people saying what a great guy he is are the same people that want to ban canned hunting and throw a fit every time it comes up. I guess they don't know that Ted actually owns two of these outfits, one in Michigan and one in Texas. I know people that have went to them. Ted would tie an animal to post and let you shoot it if he thought he could make enough money from it.

Paul

Charlie P 04-30-2008 05:11 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

again I can argue that Teddy does more for hunting than you do.
Do me a favor tell me what he has done in the last ten years,that he hasn't made money off, to promote hunting.

Tuco 04-30-2008 07:34 PM

RE: ted nugent
 
Do you know any anit hutners that has ever changed the way they think? Ever seen one on TV saying they see things differently now? You will never change their minds....period.

ORIGINAL: wahoohunter


ORIGINAL: Tuco

I for one could care less about what the "anti-hunters" think of us hunters. You will never change their mind. Now somebody that has no opinion, that may be a little different. I think Ted has the guts to say what most of us really think. As far as the the anti-hunters....they can Kiss My ASS.

Is this a joke? Instead of wanting to enlighten the anti-hunting community and present them with facts as to how hunters help everyone from vegetarians to omnivores you're going to plead arrogance and create the exact situation that gets hunters in trouble?

wahoohunter 04-30-2008 07:57 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

ORIGINAL: Tuco

Do you know any anit hutners that has ever changed the way they think? Ever seen one on TV saying they see things differently now? You will never change their minds....period.

ORIGINAL: wahoohunter


ORIGINAL: Tuco

I for one could care less about what the "anti-hunters" think of us hunters. You will never change their mind. Now somebody that has no opinion, that may be a little different. I think Ted has the guts to say what most of us really think. As far as the the anti-hunters....they can Kiss My ASS.

Is this a joke? Instead of wanting to enlighten the anti-hunting community and present them with facts as to how hunters help everyone from vegetarians to omnivores you're going to plead arrogance and create the exact situation that gets hunters in trouble?

you may never change their mind, but proclaiming that they can "kiss your ass" is only going to cause increased animosity from them, and that's no good for anyone involved.

Tuco 05-01-2008 02:38 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
My point is, they will never change they way they think, so I could care less about what they think. They want to shove their way of thinking down my throat, change the way I do things to suit them. They are endoctrinated not educated mostly by orginizations like PETA, the liberal media, college professors and such. They buy into the hype of these idiots and therefore are idiots themselves, that cannot be reasoned with and I don't see why I should waste my time with them. But like I said, someone who has not formed and opinion, say a young person, yes educate them as to why we hunt. But the anti hunters want us to become non hunters with no compromise, just like the anit gunners want to get rid of all guns.

ORIGINAL: wahoohunter


ORIGINAL: Tuco

Do you know any anit hutners that has ever changed the way they think? Ever seen one on TV saying they see things differently now? You will never change their minds....period.

ORIGINAL: wahoohunter


ORIGINAL: Tuco

I for one could care less about what the "anti-hunters" think of us hunters. You will never change their mind. Now somebody that has no opinion, that may be a little different. I think Ted has the guts to say what most of us really think. As far as the the anti-hunters....they can Kiss My ASS.

Is this a joke? Instead of wanting to enlighten the anti-hunting community and present them with facts as to how hunters help everyone from vegetarians to omnivores you're going to plead arrogance and create the exact situation that gets hunters in trouble?

you may never change their mind, but proclaiming that they can "kiss your ass" is only going to cause increased animosity from them, and that's no good for anyone involved.

Edcyclopedia 05-01-2008 05:54 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
Everyone makes an easy judgement from the cover of a book??!!!
At first glance I would venture to say he can/is a little/lotta radical,
but without knowing him I wouldn't bet the farm on anything without getting to know him or others, that's just a life lesson.
He is kind of like a mouthy comedian or boxer or rapper or anything...
You get my drift?[8D] You tend to remember these people and don't forget he's in the publics eye and we know how the media loves that.
Thinking about it, maybe Ted's the Paris Hilton or Lyndsay Lowhan of hunting?

skb2706 05-01-2008 07:41 AM

RE: ted nugent
 

ORIGINAL: Charlie P


again I can argue that Teddy does more for hunting than you do.
Do me a favor tell me what he has done in the last ten years,that he hasn't made money off, to promote hunting.
Do me a favor and tell me what you've done.

Ted brings hundreds of kids to his place, on his time, at his expense to teach them about the outdoors, hunting and conservation every year. I doubt that anyone here can come close.


wahoohunter 05-01-2008 08:20 AM

RE: ted nugent
 

ORIGINAL: skb2706


ORIGINAL: Charlie P


again I can argue that Teddy does more for hunting than you do.
Do me a favor tell me what he has done in the last ten years,that he hasn't made money off, to promote hunting.
Do me a favor and tell me what you've done.

Ted brings hundreds of kids to his place, on his time, at his expense to teach them about the outdoors, hunting and conservation every year. I doubt that anyone here can come close.

skb2706, you keep talking about how much he has done for the hunting community then you come up with one miniscule detail that doesn't even deal with the anti-hunting community. I'm sure your response is going to be, again, "well what have you done?" Right now, not much as I 'm still in college and the oppurtunity to change the world every day just doesn't present itsself too often. Uncle Ted, on the other hand, was a famous musician and was/is in a position to which people look to him as a roll model just because he is famous. Given such a position where he can affect so many people, we'll ask again, do us a favor and tell us what he's done, namely, what he has done free of profit.

SouthernStrut56 05-01-2008 08:29 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
Give him a little credit, he is the guy that wrote cat scratch fever and stranglehold. Think about it, Cat Scratch Fever is one of the best song's ever written, you know you like it. Stranglehold, great as well. Have you listened to the guitar in Great White Buffalo? He's amazing. Much more talented than any of us on here. As far as his hunting goes, not too much talent involved I'm afraid. He owns that ranch where he can walk right up on a deer and poke its eyes out if he wanted to. Any of us couldhunt where he does......well, some of us. I think some folks in here got more than a screw loose :D. Ted is a little extreme about guns and what not, but he's fun to watch. And I really dont care too much about the political game, if they take my guns or huntin rights away I'm tellin you its gonna be real life Rambo, no lie.....And I'm pretty sure there's a whole lot more people that feel this way, and the govt knows that. Rednecks are crazy, and here in alabama if they took our hunting rights away or guns away.......Hell on earth, we'd go nuts. Two gays can make love and raise a confused test tube kid, but I can't kill a deer??? Oh Lord it'd be complete chaos. As far as PETA and the anti-gun folks, haha, I'd love to see em come down here and try to make a statement. They'd tuck their tails and run back to California so fast. And this is just REALITY, I'm not tryin to be a harda@# cause anybody can talk smack with a gun in their hand, this is just what would really happen.Its the truth. I aint worried about a thing, I'll shoot my guns and hunt game animals legally til I die. If a man can marry a dadgum man, by God I can kill wild game animals. hmm....Maybe I'm a little extreme like Uncle Ted???:eek: haha naaaah :D

SteveBNy 05-01-2008 09:59 AM

RE: ted nugent
 

Ted brings hundreds of kids to his place, on his time, at his expense to teach them about the outdoors, hunting and conservation every year. I doubt that anyone here can come close.
Please provide the proof to this - especially the number of kids (100's a year or what time frame?) and what portion of the expense is covered by Ted personally (not donations to his foundation).

Steve

Steve863 05-01-2008 10:29 AM

RE: ted nugent
 

Please provide the proof to this - especially the number of kids (100's a year or what time frame?) and what portion of the expense is covered by Ted personally (not donations to his foundation). Steve

Yes, plus even if he does provide this from his own pocket he is probably using it as a charitable write-off somewhere which in turn saves him on taxes. In the long run this isn't costing him anything. Like most celebrities who associate their names with good causes, it is more for personal publicity and benefit than anything else.

skb2706 05-01-2008 11:11 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
You will have your proof.

But aren't we just as responsible for hunter good will and public opinion as Ted.

skb2706 05-01-2008 11:15 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
Teddy does this..........what do you do ?

http://www.thekampforkids.com/

bryant1 05-01-2008 11:35 AM

RE: ted nugent
 
I couldnt have said it better SouthernStrut 56^

Steve863 05-01-2008 12:20 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

But aren't we just as responsible for hunter good will and public opinion as Ted.
Certainly everyone of us is responsible to show hunters in a positive light. The best that most of us could do is to respect landowners and others who utilize the same public lands that we might. This all starts with us not looking, acting or talking like barbarians. Nugent fails this test right from the get go. As far as good will is concerned, I surely think we should all show good will to each other and to those who don't hunt and even to those who don't like what we do. By doing this we are putting ourselves several notches above the typical anti-hunter who has little if any sense in their head. I DON'T see being critical of another hunter who we don't think represents the majority of hunters as being ill-willed. I don't buy this bull that we all need to stick together as hunters no matter what. If there are bad apples in the bunch, we need to get rid of them or point out how and why we think they are doing hunting more harm than good!



ipscshooter 05-01-2008 12:28 PM

RE: ted nugent
 
I really don't recall Ted acting like a "barbarian". He's a bit over-the-top with excitement/joy or whatever, at times, and he's certainly outspoken and colorful. But, I'd rather watch Ted being excited and rejoicing in the harvest of meat for his family than watching Stan Potts who, after the kill looks like he was viciously angry at his prey...

Steve863 05-01-2008 12:41 PM

RE: ted nugent
 

Teddy does this..........what do you do ? http://www.thekampforkids.com/
Is Nugent paying you to defend him here or something? What exactly does this camp do on a nationwide level to promote hunting to kids? This sure looks like nothing more than a local effort up in Michigan. They clearly state that they are a non-profit association that survive solely on donations from the public and businesses, so other than maybe help set it up, where is Nugent spending his own money to take kids hunting here? I also love the fact that Nugent idolizes and quotes Fred Bear all the time. In reality Nugent couldn't carry Bear's jockstrap in hunting skills or just about anything else.



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