i have to partially agree with dep214. it sounds as if you COMPOUNDER onlys just want your special season. you special ? disabled of sorts? your weapon of choice so inadequate that you need a special season that would exclude crossbows. i have seen this arguement before and it does tend to bring out compounder onlys and lets them get on there soapbox and degrade anyone that uses a crossbow during there archery only season. crossbows are legal in arkansas as archery equipment and i hunt with a horton hunter supreme . i also have a jennings carbon extreme that i enjoy hunting with. i like shooting the bow more for fun than hunting . i tend to bring home venison more often with the crossbow . and for that matter my best friend who has hunted with a bow for 20 + years ,just bought a horton nitro and loves it . killed a doe in oct. with it . he got rid of his matthews (getting another though)and just crossbowed. you see noone that hunts with me said anything negative about it. we look at it as hunting and thats cool. if i had a member who did raise b.s. about the fact that we hunted with crossbows they would be finding another place to hunt. and in that same line i have a variety of rifles , im a gun nut, but i would not tell someone they are wrong for hunting with a 30/30, because i hunt with a 270 ,308 or 7 stw or some more powerful caliber than theres . as long as they know there weapons limitations and are good with it go hunting. i think the crossbow vs archery special season debate is really easy go by what your state game and fish allows. and crossbowers if your state doesnt allow crossbows during archery season then start hounding them. make them either include you or give you to a special long season

TO ME IT DOESN'T MATTER WETHER OR NOT YOU HUNT WITH A CROSSBOW OR A COMPOUND OR ANY TYPE OF BOW, JUST AS LONG AS THE ANIMAL WAS TAKEN LEGALY

Lets see, a crossbow has a stock like a gun, a trigger like a gun,a safety like a gun some have scopes like a gun, but most of all it's always loaded and cocked like a gun! In Pa we have a million hunters and around 350,000 bowhunters. The concern here is that thousands will flock to the easy to shoot crossbow. Thats fine, so long as it has its' own season and is regulated as such. The 350,000 bowhunters in this state shouldn't have to worry about their present season being shortened because a totally different weapon raises the kill rate!

BTW, every traditional archer I know is even more rabidly anti crossbow than I could ever be. Also, a statewide survey here said that 80+% of PA hunters are against the legalizing the crossbow in archery season.

lets see. the compound has sight pins, the compound has has a let off,the compound has limb savers for quietness,the compound has a trigger release,the compound has pulleys. i have never seen a recurve with any of thses. it sounds like it is just like the crossbow.why do compound bow users feel so superior? why don't the compound users take all the gimmicks off so it will be like traditional archery. all these gimmicks are onlu used by modern folks for it to be easier. woops! once again the compound sounds just like the crossbow users.your argument has no merit because you site the same thing a compound has equipped with.

bt bowhunter-
you forgot to say that there are many more deer found wounded with a compound bow than any other weapon used.

Okay dep, but what do you think is going to happen if you allow people to take "the easy road" and use crossbows. Look at it this way, not everyone has the amount of respect for the game animals as the people on here. You are going to have a TON of hunters using crossbows that shouldn't be. If they had a compound bow in their hands but they shouldn't be using that, they are probablly going to miss.

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

remove all the extras from the compound and then hunt. will it be as easy? no! samething in using a compound. the fact steal remains that many more deer are found wounded with a COMPOUND than any other weapon used.why do you use all the compund extras? for the easy road?

Okay, now take all of the goodies off of your cross bow. Take off the scope, take of EVERYTHING go back to 100 years ago and tell me which one is going to result in fewer wounds. You are not looking at the fact that the crossbow you speak of has those neat little gadgets that you hate so much. Take away the composite limbs, the braided string, the scopes. It is not a bow, in the form that it is now. Sure, they WERE bows about 200 years ago, now they are MORE LIKE a short range gun than a bow.

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

please tell me where i buy these bullets for the short range gun. you refuse to admit all the gimmicks that the compound has and the condemn the crossbow for having the same thing. again more deer are found woynded by the compound than any other weapon used.a scope does not gaurantee you a perfect shot just like the SIGHT PIN does not gaurantee the compound user.it is just another tool to help shoot better.the crossbow has a trigger and the compound has a trigger release. what's you point? you keep condeming the crossbow for having the same thing as a compound.

I agree, and I have never said that there aren't a lot of gadgets for compound bows, there are TONS out there. Wann know what my bow is. It is a Browning Mirage, I have a cobra fiber optic sight on it, o yeah, a bear puff. As for a release, I used a cheap 6 dollar Tru Fire that is held in the hand, you push the "trigger button" with your thumb. Thats it. No quiver, I carry my quiver in, no stabilizers, no simms vibrations lab silencers. My arrow, hmm, a 31" Easton xx75 Gamegetter II tipped with a 100 grain N.A.P. Thunderhead. It doesn't sound like I use all of those gadgets. You have to think about that too, how many people have a bow that EVERY little gadget on it from the silicon bead filled stablizer, to the laser range finder? I don't think too many do. Now, the crossbow has a TRIGGER, not a trigger release. I am sure that you won't understand this, but there is a big difference. The trigger release of a compound bow users is attached to the arm and the string. When at full draw, the archer is holding back roughly 35 pounds. How much weight are crossbow users holding back when they have their finger on the trigger? Sure, the crossbow may be heavier than the compound, but the compound is still very heavy. Plus, if it was heavier wouldn't that allow it to apply more pressure to your arm enabling it to be more steady?

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)