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maybe thats where the name magnate came from,you two are stuck on each other. i again find it funny that when other say what you say it becomes an attack. when you do it you will not respond. i do not have acopt of the tpwd study. ask them for it if you can find the site.you have stated that you were superior to other in other posts. do not change your mind now.i never have and never will feel superior to anyone.i just have hunting ethics where others do not.

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I just read a post in another thread by a Texas hunter who says that xbows are legal 4 of 5 months there. The exception being regular archery season. Oh, and the disabled can use em then too. Sounds like a pretty fair deal for the xbow guys to me.

He also said that there is very little support for legalizing it in bow season. Sounds a lot like Pa <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Buck Magnet and I have had a few VERY heated debates but they were conducted with respect and stayed in the spirit of the forum. I will say again, I started on this thread feeling superioir to no one but I now feel superior to one. When confronted with facts and statistics you went to name calling. When asked to support your statemnents you failed to reference the study, you failed to name the gadgets you vaguely referred to. It's an old ploy to try to discredit your opponent when losing an arguement. It's also expected when someone makes a claim in a debate that he be able to cite his sources with some credible evidence. I'm still patiently waiting to see some evidence supporting any of the claims you've made.

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BT, you and I have had some HEATED debates, but you were always a good person to debate. It was dealt on facts, not name calling. You seem like a very ethical and good hunter to me. Dep, you keep talking about proof, show yours. Why didn't you respond to my post from this morning???? You talk about these gadgets and I show you that they can put on your X-Bow too. NOW DO YOU SEE that crossbows can have the same gadgets as compounds? You start talking about BT not being ethical because you were backed into a corner and had no way out. You know that you can't pull up proof, you can't defend the crossbow in a good way, so you resort to name calling.

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

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you two are really halarious. you deserve each other. i did answer your post from thsi morning and went over each one. maybe you should learn to pay more attention to what you read. the name calling and feeling superior was started by you bt. you can read the posts and see that for a fact.it took SEVERAL times of telling you where i got the info but for some reason it did not register with you. pay attention to what is in front of you and you will see where your questions were answered.

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you two are really halarious. you deserve each other. i did answer your post from thsi morning and went over each one. maybe you should learn to pay more attention to what you read. the name calling and feeling superior was started by you bt. you can read the posts and see that for a fact.it took SEVERAL times of telling you where i got the info but for some reason it did not register with you. pay attention to what is in front of you and you will see where your questions were answered.

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I am a crossbow hunter and have a lifetime permit in Missouri because of some messed up arms I have.
I feel thet it should either be for handicapped people or a seperate season because of the advantage.
I do not want dep to be my spokesman, I will say no more!!!
If they would have open seasons for both compound and crossbow than I say its still about morals and ethics anyway!!!
Lets all be good examples to those watching!!

scott boain

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i never asked or wanted tobe anyones spokesman. my opinions were not the only ones that felt that way.bt and madnet just avoided the others posts that confronted them. thos posts still show where they were asked why they were not answering.find some other platform to get on. i am disabled also but i do not whine about it.

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Dep, maybe you should go back. Your whole point why crossbows should be legal was because compound bows have tons of gadgets. I PROVED that your crossbow has the same things for it. DID YOU READ THAT, Read it again, and maybe three or four more times after that. Then maybe you will let off of your &quot;compounds have gadgets and crossbows don't theory&quot; Take a look around on web sites that sell crossbow stuff, I think that there are more gadgets than you can beleive. <font size=6>YET AGAIN, WHERE IS THIS PROOF THAT YOU SUPOSIDLY GAVE US?</font id=size6> I didn't see any website link. If you want me to believe that study, then show me the link. Until then, I am not going to beleive you. Where did I personally attack you? Where did I say that you have no hunting ethics? O, I didn't, but you did say that several times. Do you realize that it is people like you who make the crossbow hated more and more each day. You are such an advocate of it but yet all you do is make it sound worse. You make all crossbow users out to have the same attitude as you, no offense to the crossbow users, I know that you all don't act like that. Take a look at your arguements. You REFUSE TO READ peoples arguements, and then you tell them that they didn't say it. Go ahead, read your posts. Your posts are entirely wrote out of emotion, try writing a post on facts, not just because you want a crossbow season and you are willing to sling mudd to get it.

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

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the things you say about me are coming out of yourself. at this point you are not worth the time to go back and get the posts where you did say the things you deny.i showed you where the proof was and you can not find it. is that my fault? no!the mud slinginging was started by you when others started agreeing with me about your attutudes of superiority.maybe you should read several times so you can remember what you said.

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this is typical of those that can not back up their arguments. you came out with feelings of superiority and name calling and now try to play the victim. kids game. grow up!

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Its clearly obvious we all have our own views on this topic, and since i use both a compound and a cross bow.. i am a bit &quot;on the fence&quot; so to speak. I dont agree that there should be seperate seasons, as i think this will lead to even more seperate seasons and the time in the woods will be dramatically decreased. I love the &quot;bow hunt&quot; scenerio, the prep, the scouting, the practice, the sitting on stand for hours, just waiting for that chance when all your hard work pays off, now whether i shoot a compound or a crossbow at that glorious moment does not matter to me, what matters is how i got to that point to have that chance. I do however DISTINCTLY disagree with the monkey comment, i may be hairy BUT I AINT THAT HAIRY!!!!

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Buckforme

Please allow me to apologize. The monkey thing was not directed at any crossbow hunter. I was trying to point out that the crossbow IS easy to master. I still stand on that point. It was not, however, intended to offend as it obviously did. For that I apologize to you and every one here thatwas offended by it. I know I said too bad before, but the fact that it keeps coming back has caused me to rethink it. I think that if you can forgive that indiscretion you would probably agree the rest of our debate (when you or I directly addressed one another) has been civil and in the right spirit. Again my apologies for that statement!

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MoBow; I disagree with your comment about dedication. Crossbow hunters have to be just as dedicated to hunting to be successful as other bow hunters. Shooting other bows takes more time and archery skills but the deer still have to be brought into range. It takes more skill shooting a longbow than a compound. It's even easier if the compound has 80% let off, but I don't hear anyone saying they're a copout.

Damn; the next thing you know people will say semiautomatics are a copout over bolt actions. You know; the rifle hunters must read these posts and think we need to give our heads a good shake.

Dan O.

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After running down through all 8 pages of this thread, I beleive it's about time the Moderator(s) acted and put a lock on this. It is getting us nowhere. Crossbows are here, they need their place. Making a separate season will just shorten another. DON'T ROCK THE BOAT! Most of us have been blessed with seasons of reasonable length. It's been interesting, but it seems this subject is getting to HOT! Please Mr. Moderator, close it up and let us get our senses back.

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Dan O., even though in Ontario, it is legal to hunt with a cross-bow during the archery season, I'm sure you will agree that there are some &quot;hunters&quot; who have purchased/acquired cross-bows just to take advantage of the early archery seasons in this province. I personally know of three who have done this. All three had no prior experience with any type of archery. They just wanted in on the early seasons. Cross-bow was the way to do it. Easy to shoot, not much preparation required. Granted an animal still has to be within range (they think 50 yards is within range). There are always people who will attempt to take advantage of situations and thank goodness they are in the miniority. And folks, I DO NOT hunt with these guys. True archery hunters, including most cross-bow huters, do have the dedication to learn and use their equipment well, and to those hunters, I salute you.