The Crossbow Controversy
#102
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From: arlington texas USA
buck magnet shows his lack of knowledge about the crossbow. you can get silencers and sight pins,nothing else. they are not made for anything else.buck magnate is very good at skirting theissues as you say.he did finally admit that both shot arrows but says they are nothing alike. does not make sense.he is typical of most compounders who feel superior to other hunters. if he was the true hunter he states he would be hunting with a recurve and not using all the extras. again his type of hunting ;leaves more wounded deer than any other weapon used.
#104
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From: North Bay Ontario Canada
I have read this thread and will address this matter in this way. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and should be allowed to express it. The name-calling does nothing to enhance this board. I own and use both compound bows and a crossbow. My crossbow is an Excalibur and on a range, I can accurately hit the vitals on a 3-D deer target at 50 yards. Would I try that on a real deer while hunting? Not a chance in a hundred years. Would I take a 50 yard shot with my 80% let-off Mathews? Not a chance. If the "hunter" is legally allowed to use a crossbow, I have no problem with that fact. I do know the pros and cons of each weapon. nuff said.
#105
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From: Milford OH USA
Hmmmmmmm..... I wonder what he means by a certain extent..........
In my own opinion, I feel that we as hunters we should take any technology given to us, to a certain extent. I don' think that we can kill a deer too humanely. We should attempt to make a fast and humane kill, and new technology seems to help out. We should keep it as traditional as possible, but things like climbing treestands, scent lok suits, expandable broadheads, fiber optic sights.... are good ideas that help hunters out.
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)
The outdoors is yours, treat it with RESPECT!!!
In my own opinion, I feel that we as hunters we should take any technology given to us, to a certain extent. I don' think that we can kill a deer too humanely. We should attempt to make a fast and humane kill, and new technology seems to help out. We should keep it as traditional as possible, but things like climbing treestands, scent lok suits, expandable broadheads, fiber optic sights.... are good ideas that help hunters out.
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)
The outdoors is yours, treat it with RESPECT!!!
#107
Dep, this is just like you, personal attacks on others when you realize that they are going to quit arguing with you over something that YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. You aren't the TYPICAL crossbow users and I THANK GOD FOR IT. You obviously don't know crap about your so called weapon. Grow up and quit trying to pick fights.
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)
#108
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From: Milford OH USA
I guess my whole question here is why you think a crossbow hunter is not a bow hunter. Again, and you have yet to comment to this, is when bow hunting with either a compound or a crossbow (again i use both) the actual hunt is exactly the same. The prep work is exactly the same. This assumes that "bow hunters" scout thier area, pick a stand according to trials, rubs, scrapes, sign, beds, sources of food, play the wind, get camoed up, etc..... We as bow hunters spend more time in the woods learning the habits of deer then a week long gun hunter has ever done, that is of course he is not a bow hunter too<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>. The only diff here is the draw. The release is a little different but not much if you think about it. So tell me why a person who does all the above (just as you do) cannot hunt the same season you do simply because the draw and release are a bit different or easier so you say. The yardage to have a clean kill is the same, the fixed or climbing stands are the same, what gives here?
The arguement about the numbers of wounded deer are probally just that.... more compounders equal more wounded deer. The numbers are proportinate to the amount of hunters using compunds versus crossbows by choice or by law. But your claim thats its easier to kill a deer with a crossbow then a compound may have a legal point to it. If that is true then all states should ban the compound and require you to use a crossbow becasue as you claim is "easier" to kill a deer with which would most likely mean less wounded deer. HMMMMMMMMM
The outdoors is yours, treat it with RESPECT!!!
The arguement about the numbers of wounded deer are probally just that.... more compounders equal more wounded deer. The numbers are proportinate to the amount of hunters using compunds versus crossbows by choice or by law. But your claim thats its easier to kill a deer with a crossbow then a compound may have a legal point to it. If that is true then all states should ban the compound and require you to use a crossbow becasue as you claim is "easier" to kill a deer with which would most likely mean less wounded deer. HMMMMMMMMM
The outdoors is yours, treat it with RESPECT!!!
#109
Wow Big Country said it! Look what you miss in a day!
Well I guess Some folks took offense to my statement that "any monkey can get good with a crossbow" That statement was NOT directed at anyone here. I called no one a monkey but am willing to bet a monkey could shoot one!It is a fact that a crossbow takes very little real talent or practice when compared to any conventional bow. If that FACT offends you, too bad. I called no one any names. Do I consider someone who shoots a compound to be a better archer than someone who shoots a crossbow YEP! Shooting a crossbow isn't archery. BTW I would also say that, as a rule, traditional shooters are far more dedicated than the average compound shooter. It simply takes more time with the equipment.
Now, Dep I challenged you to back up your repeated statement that "compounds wound more deer than any other weapon". Others have done the same. Where is your proof?
Edited by - btbowhunter on 01/23/2002 15:12:21
Well I guess Some folks took offense to my statement that "any monkey can get good with a crossbow" That statement was NOT directed at anyone here. I called no one a monkey but am willing to bet a monkey could shoot one!It is a fact that a crossbow takes very little real talent or practice when compared to any conventional bow. If that FACT offends you, too bad. I called no one any names. Do I consider someone who shoots a compound to be a better archer than someone who shoots a crossbow YEP! Shooting a crossbow isn't archery. BTW I would also say that, as a rule, traditional shooters are far more dedicated than the average compound shooter. It simply takes more time with the equipment.
Now, Dep I challenged you to back up your repeated statement that "compounds wound more deer than any other weapon". Others have done the same. Where is your proof?
Edited by - btbowhunter on 01/23/2002 15:12:21
#110
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From: arlington texas USA
if you had read the posts as you stated i answered your question and told you where i got the info.maybe you could bot find it since a monkey wrote it.if you feel superior to crossbowers then why do you need all the gimmicks to get you to that pointany monkey can see that is you removed all the gimmicks you would not be a very accurate hunter. that is the same with the crossbow. the difference is that the crossbow is not equipped to have all those gimmicks.i thinkyou have answered what all of have stated.you feel superior but can not be that way without all the gimmicks.you have an opinion and want to push it off onto others. you are no better or worse than anyone. you are just a hunter like me.you seem to ignore or act as if you do not see what people are saying to you.read the posts again and you will find where the info came from. i will not waste my tim to tell you again since you stated you thought you were better.


