Red Meat Cancer scare.
#11
Actually our incidence of stomach cancer is much lower than the asian countries. As far as the carcinogens you are talking about that gets in your food. Removing the burnt parts is futile in that the "carcinogens" you are talking about would be evenly distributed through out the meat.
#12
Fork Horn
Joined: Apr 2007
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Cutting the burnt edges off wont help much with the carcinogens from previous char/ash in the grill from being deposited so in that sence I agree but the new burnt meat itself is supposedly linked to cancer as well. Anything cooked black is supposedly where you may start running in to problems.
But as another poster already said I am sure you can find research linking cancer to about everything these days. Wild game is about as healthy eating as one could get.
But as another poster already said I am sure you can find research linking cancer to about everything these days. Wild game is about as healthy eating as one could get.
#13
Giant Nontypical
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Face it, you aren't getting out of this life alive!!! You are going to have to die of something. Used to be you would get killed by wild animals or fighters. If you didn't die of such trauma you would die from disease. Our world is pretty peaceful and we generally have tamed life threatening bacterial and viral infections. This means we live longer and other factors begin killing us.
Some general strategies for living longer. DO NOT SMOKE!!! DO NOT DRINK EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF ALCOHOL!!! Keep your weight down and exercise. Get your sleep. Try to eat a balanced, healthy diet. Go to the doctor for regular check-ups when you get older and get tested for (1) cholesterol level, (2) blood pressure, (3) PSA test (prostate specific andogyn test), and (4) colonoscopy tests. If the doctor says, during these regular check-ups, that you have high cholesterol, high blood pressure, prostate problems, follow his advice to rectify the problem. The colonoscopies should begin about age 50 and be repeated about every 5 years. The strategy is to find polyps which are potenitally pre-cancerous protusions from the walls of the intestines and remove any that are found. The development of this kind of cancer is slow, so every 5 years is often enough.
I like to drink. I drink about 1.5 litres of excellent German bier about once a month, and this is fairly strong beer. I drink about 1/2 bottle of wine on most Saturday evenings with my dinner with my wife and family, maybe a bit more as I'm often sipping a couple of glasses of wine while I cook this meal. Sometimes I'll drink some wine with a dinner during the week. I consider this moderate alcohol consumption. I consider a bottle or more of vodka per day immoderate alcohol consumption and hazardous to your health. I consider a six-pack of beer every day as immoderate. Use some sense.
What's a healthy diet? Common?! Haven't you been listening?! Don't eat food heavy in saturated fats or even worse transfats. Keep your fat consumption down. High levels of fat were necessary when we dug a lot of ditches by hand rather than sitting on a backhoe manipulating hydraulic control levers or tippity-tapping computer keys all day while sitting on our butts. Eat fruits and vegetables. Get some omaga-3 fatty acids (salmon, tuna, olive oil). Get some fibre.
Find out how to identify skin cancer at an early stage. There is some rule of thumb ABCD for identifying skin blotches or blemishes as skin cancer: Asymmetrical, Border irregularity, Color (intensely black, possibly bluish tint), Diameter (large than size of a pea). If you detect such a candidate, go see your doctor pronto. Skin cancer that is identified early, is very treatable. Failure to identify skin cancer early can put you in the ground in a hurry.
If you do all of these things . . . I guarantee you are still going to die, maybe a little later than otherwise. It may also be the case that living healthier will allow you to enjoy a rich and active life later into your life rather than suffering from some related problems like worn out knees from carrying your heavy body around for 50 years or arthritis for having eaten a bad diet. And you can still die from trauma -- in a car accident from some drunk hitting you, a helicopter falling on you out of the sky, a drive by shooting.
But you play the odds. Eat right. Sleep. Exercise. Don't smoke. Drink in moderation. More complicated or detailed procedures than those described above are getting into speculative areas that have, I would suspect, less high payoff value. They are dealing with secondary effects and should only be fretted and worried about when you have the primary effects addressed.
Some general strategies for living longer. DO NOT SMOKE!!! DO NOT DRINK EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF ALCOHOL!!! Keep your weight down and exercise. Get your sleep. Try to eat a balanced, healthy diet. Go to the doctor for regular check-ups when you get older and get tested for (1) cholesterol level, (2) blood pressure, (3) PSA test (prostate specific andogyn test), and (4) colonoscopy tests. If the doctor says, during these regular check-ups, that you have high cholesterol, high blood pressure, prostate problems, follow his advice to rectify the problem. The colonoscopies should begin about age 50 and be repeated about every 5 years. The strategy is to find polyps which are potenitally pre-cancerous protusions from the walls of the intestines and remove any that are found. The development of this kind of cancer is slow, so every 5 years is often enough.
I like to drink. I drink about 1.5 litres of excellent German bier about once a month, and this is fairly strong beer. I drink about 1/2 bottle of wine on most Saturday evenings with my dinner with my wife and family, maybe a bit more as I'm often sipping a couple of glasses of wine while I cook this meal. Sometimes I'll drink some wine with a dinner during the week. I consider this moderate alcohol consumption. I consider a bottle or more of vodka per day immoderate alcohol consumption and hazardous to your health. I consider a six-pack of beer every day as immoderate. Use some sense.
What's a healthy diet? Common?! Haven't you been listening?! Don't eat food heavy in saturated fats or even worse transfats. Keep your fat consumption down. High levels of fat were necessary when we dug a lot of ditches by hand rather than sitting on a backhoe manipulating hydraulic control levers or tippity-tapping computer keys all day while sitting on our butts. Eat fruits and vegetables. Get some omaga-3 fatty acids (salmon, tuna, olive oil). Get some fibre.
Find out how to identify skin cancer at an early stage. There is some rule of thumb ABCD for identifying skin blotches or blemishes as skin cancer: Asymmetrical, Border irregularity, Color (intensely black, possibly bluish tint), Diameter (large than size of a pea). If you detect such a candidate, go see your doctor pronto. Skin cancer that is identified early, is very treatable. Failure to identify skin cancer early can put you in the ground in a hurry.
If you do all of these things . . . I guarantee you are still going to die, maybe a little later than otherwise. It may also be the case that living healthier will allow you to enjoy a rich and active life later into your life rather than suffering from some related problems like worn out knees from carrying your heavy body around for 50 years or arthritis for having eaten a bad diet. And you can still die from trauma -- in a car accident from some drunk hitting you, a helicopter falling on you out of the sky, a drive by shooting.
But you play the odds. Eat right. Sleep. Exercise. Don't smoke. Drink in moderation. More complicated or detailed procedures than those described above are getting into speculative areas that have, I would suspect, less high payoff value. They are dealing with secondary effects and should only be fretted and worried about when you have the primary effects addressed.
#14
Fork Horn
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 153
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From: Fond Du Lac, WI
Carcinogens and grilling comes from fat dripping from the meat and hitting store bought charcoal. Its the chemicals in store bought charcoal that are supposedly carcinogenic.





