Problem Hunter in Quality Deer Managment
#42
RE: Problem Hunter in Quality Deer Managment
The studies may be inconclusive about big bucks passing on big racks, but why does that matter if your concern is a healthy herd instead of just more trophy racks. A large population of very mature healthy bucks is probably gonna contribute better genetics overall to the population than having a bunch of "immature" 4=6 pointers. I mean a good cattle rancher doesn't maintain a healthy herd by slaughtering his best breeding stock. So, lets leave everything bigger than 8 points alone.And ya gotta ask yourself why such a mindset developed against shooting does and persists among many into the present?
#43
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ponce de Leon Florida USA
Posts: 10,079
RE: Problem Hunter in Quality Deer Managment
Wouldn't a "immature" 4 - 6 point have the same basic genetics as a "mature" 10 - 12 point, assuming it is a wild herd with no relocated deer? Time is the only difference.
#44
RE: Problem Hunter in Quality Deer Managment
ORIGINAL: jlsherr
Jeez, your own grandmother...... Respect her wishes.
Jeez, your own grandmother...... Respect her wishes.
#45
RE: Problem Hunter in Quality Deer Managment
ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche
It sounds like you are passionate about QDM while your cousin is passionate about tender grilled backstrap.But, with all that unconditional love you should be able to overlook your cousins silly impulse to fill his deer tag and get on with life
It sounds like you are passionate about QDM while your cousin is passionate about tender grilled backstrap.But, with all that unconditional love you should be able to overlook your cousins silly impulse to fill his deer tag and get on with life
#46
RE: Problem Hunter in Quality Deer Managment
Good genetics are often a blue print for both a long healthy life and the strong potential to pass on those good genetics to the next generation. That becomes most apparent with animals that live long healthy lives. Why do you think that the best breeding stock in any animal population is often the very mature instead of the animal kingdoms version of teenagers. It wouldnt make any sense to send all your prized very mature stud bulls to get turned into hamburger and replace them with very young unproven bulls, yet that is what some folks seem to emphasize as a sound deer management strategy. And ya gotta wonder why
And uncle Matt, what are you still doing here. I thought you would be in a tree stand by now. I'm heading your direction in just a little bit.
And uncle Matt, what are you still doing here. I thought you would be in a tree stand by now. I'm heading your direction in just a little bit.
#47
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,862
RE: Problem Hunter in Quality Deer Managment
Wouldn't a "immature" 4 - 6 point have the same basic genetics as a "mature" 10 - 12 point, assuming it is a wild herd with no relocated deer? Time is the only difference
Yes it would! This is something that the QDM crowd interestingly forget to tell us. In a herd with good genetics it wouldn't matter one bit if the breeding is being done by the young bucks or the old ones since the animal is BORN with the genetic make-up. The only reason they tell us to let the young ones walk is the hope that they will be bigger somewhere down the road for the trophy hunters to shoot. Their theories that the herd needs a better and more "natural" age structure is all BS just to try to brainwash people to buy into all this!
#48
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Moravia NY USA
Posts: 2,164
RE: Problem Hunter in Quality Deer Managment
Letting a young buck walk and shooting a doe instead will pay off after just a few years if you can get as many people involved as possible.
Steve
#49
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 298
RE: Problem Hunter in Quality Deer Managment
why would you send out a newsletter to the whole family if onlya fewof you hunt? that seems kinda dumb. why not just agree on your hunting practices among the hunters and land owners only...
jeez...who sends out a family newsletter to outline hunting guidlines?
who sends out a family newsletter for any reason?
don't families talk anymore? Why a newsletter? it is baffling. I bet it was an email newsletter too.
do you have any explanation for the newsletter?
jeez...who sends out a family newsletter to outline hunting guidlines?
who sends out a family newsletter for any reason?
don't families talk anymore? Why a newsletter? it is baffling. I bet it was an email newsletter too.
do you have any explanation for the newsletter?
#50
RE: Problem Hunter in Quality Deer Managment
yeah...the newsletter was for my grandfather (who has parkinsons) and comes over to the camp during the season and used to hunt, having a letter gives him something to read and keep up with....i should have clarified that 90% of it talked about shooting lanes we've cut, where we've seen a lot of deer, bucks we've seen on our trail cameras etc. etc. etc.....it wasn't an email newsletter by the way, it was a a family letter like you would receieve with an christmas letter or so...we sent it to anyone who comes to the camp anytime to tell them what all we've been doing and all that... everyone who read it before it was sent it out that it was really well written and that it should get anyone excited about hunting season sooooo thats why send out a family newsletter