High fence hunting makes me sick. It is for little boys who can't go out and find their own game.

So now that we've got an ample survey - the next question is: Are you shocked by these results?

I mean, we have 90+% of our members going on record to say that they would hunt inside an enclosure, given the circumstances.

I knew the results would change a little bit once wedeveloped a scenario where you had to either hunt inside the fence, or eat the financial loss, but honestly, I thought it would've been closer to 50/50. Is this a situation where we're putting our ethics "for sale?"

I'm just as bad as the next guy, b/c I've said before that I wouldn't be caught dead hunting inside a fence. But, put a few of my own dollars on the line and I'd be right out there, gun-in-hand. LOL I definitely appreciate all the honest answers too. Strange ethical dilemma, definitely.

I think your way off base. (as usual). One your enclosure is larger than most people's hunting property, and chances of deer being locked in smaller areas on the east coast naturally is a pretty good chance. I would have changed my answer to go hunt, if I bothered to read your post carefully.

So, its not about putting ethics for sale. Its about not getting what you want or thought. Two totally different things.

I could care less if people hunt in enclosures. I won't do it. But I am not paying for peoples hunt.

Am I? Sorry, BC, but I think it IS putting your ethics for sale. Please explain to me how it's not.

Um, I did. I bet that land you claim to hunt in Garrett county is locking deer out of less than your 3000 acres you talk about in Tx. Either by natural terrain, or fences (for livestock, or rivers) or other boundries that they prefer not to cross. I am sure you wanted to turn this into ethics, but you need to come up with a more intelligent scenerio to try to trap people into answering the question so you can sit there and say they are selling thier ethics and poke fun at them. You fall short. (As usual)

I will answer you honestly. For starters, like I said I wouldn't pay to hunt. If it comes to me having to lease land to hunt I will quit, which may be very soon, like next year.

So lets say I did have the money and wanted to pay to hunt deer. Even if they advertised it as being a fenced in 18,000 acre ranch I would still do it. I would probably even do it at 3,000 acres. Those are huge areas and I don't blieve deer move around that much. Heck I'm used to hunting 9 or 10 acres (if that sometiems) with very limited places to set up successful stands.

When I think of canned or caged hunting I think of large numbers of domesticated deer in small areas where they cannot get away from you. Pretty much like shooting fish in a barrel. And to be honest I know people that still wouldn't be able tag out.

How would you feel about a ranch with no fences but the stands were pre set, the deer routes were known (probably baited or had food plots) and the guide drops you off at your stand or blind and comes back when you are done. Does this sound more like fair chase or less like fair chase? Does it sound like hunting, or just shooting deer? Its not the way I hunt I know that. Ethics are really hard to define aren't they.

Paul

No, it was all of us plus all the people we hunt with, we just killed a couple. And they have been killing 18, 20, 22 deer, (That's actually the order of the number of kills, and the deer population is fine.) every year for three-four year, they mostly rifle hunt.

Hey, folks you are feeding the ego of a troll.

Very shocked at the results to be honest with you. For the record I see it is selling your ethics as well. Pretty easy conclusion IMO. Hunter A is against high fence hunting. Hunter A would hunt in an enclosure if he paid $3,000 and was duped into it. What else would you call it? It's a sell out. Justify it 1,000 different ways if you want. In the end you sold your ethics for a $3,000 bill.


Then why the need for a fence?


Not that I would participate in either, but the difference is the deer has the option to go "over there" if it wanted to without running into a fence.

I share your thoughts on the matter. You must feel great every day when you look in the mirror. Good for you taking that position. For all you young hunters think about what NY is saying andlearn.