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Ethics Police - Question Time
04-24-2007, 12:33 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Southeast, VA
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RE: Ethics Police - Question Time
A better question might be, How could that happen? I'm not dropping 3K to hunt anywhere(ecspecially non-refundable) without knowing all details of the ranch, the hunt, or talking to people that have already hunted there.
04-24-2007, 01:11 PM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2005
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RE: Ethics Police - Question Time
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
I would find the first flight home and call my lawyer. Or North Texan in this case
Seriously, 3K I wouldn't do it.
I would find the first flight home and call my lawyer. Or North Texan in this case
Seriously, 3K I wouldn't do it.
BTW What does this have to do with ethics?
04-24-2007, 01:26 PM
#14
Giant Nontypical
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,716
RE: Ethics Police - Question Time
Just seeing if we're willing to put our ethics for salewhen we have a dog in the hunt.
If you'd just randomly do a poll of whether an HNI member would ever hunt inside an enclosure, the results would be overwhelmingly negative. A huge majority would declare that they would "never" hunt under anything less than 100% fair-chase conditions.
But, when the tables are turned, and we have thealternatives of suffering a financial loss, versus doing something that we are normally"opposed to" (butprepaid)it's interesting to see how opinions change.
I voted "hunt anyway" too, so I'm just as bad as the next guy. Just proving a point, that's all.
If you'd just randomly do a poll of whether an HNI member would ever hunt inside an enclosure, the results would be overwhelmingly negative. A huge majority would declare that they would "never" hunt under anything less than 100% fair-chase conditions.
But, when the tables are turned, and we have thealternatives of suffering a financial loss, versus doing something that we are normally"opposed to" (butprepaid)it's interesting to see how opinions change.
I voted "hunt anyway" too, so I'm just as bad as the next guy. Just proving a point, that's all.
04-24-2007, 01:37 PM
#15
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 448
RE: Ethics Police - Question Time
Let the buyer beware! It is your responsibility to research your hunt well in advance and to get all the information and call all the references to find out what you are about to drop a sizeable amount of money on. I would hunt. The ranch has 18K acres that is just over 28 square miles of land...hunt and next time do a little more pre-task planning.
04-24-2007, 02:12 PM
#16
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ponce de Leon Florida USA
Posts: 10,079
RE: Ethics Police - Question Time
Hunt, the idea of an 18,000 acre fenced area being unfair or unehicalhunting is just plain stupid. Anybody that has that kind of problem needs to hunt nekkid with a stick or a rock cause using any kind of rifle or bow is definitely cheating with that kind of view.
04-24-2007, 02:12 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Posts: 1,785
RE: Ethics Police - Question Time
ORIGINAL: quiksilver
Just seeing if we're willing to put our ethics for salewhen we have a dog in the hunt.
If you'd just randomly do a poll of whether an HNI member would ever hunt inside an enclosure, the results would be overwhelmingly negative. A huge majority would declare that they would "never" hunt under anything less than 100% fair-chase conditions.
But, when the tables are turned, and we have thealternatives of suffering a financial loss, versus doing something that we are normally"opposed to" (butprepaid)it's interesting to see how opinions change.
I voted "hunt anyway" too, so I'm just as bad as the next guy. Just proving a point, that's all.
Just seeing if we're willing to put our ethics for salewhen we have a dog in the hunt.
If you'd just randomly do a poll of whether an HNI member would ever hunt inside an enclosure, the results would be overwhelmingly negative. A huge majority would declare that they would "never" hunt under anything less than 100% fair-chase conditions.
But, when the tables are turned, and we have thealternatives of suffering a financial loss, versus doing something that we are normally"opposed to" (butprepaid)it's interesting to see how opinions change.
I voted "hunt anyway" too, so I'm just as bad as the next guy. Just proving a point, that's all.
I still don't see where true "ethics" comes into play in this scenerio. Just because someone disagrees with "high fence" hunting (which I am part of that group), doesn't make it "unethical" to hunt in a pen. To me, it is just poor sportsmanship.
04-24-2007, 02:53 PM
#18
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blissfield MI USA
Posts: 5,293
RE: Ethics Police - Question Time
18,000 acres is not "fenced in" in my opinion. There are probably resident deer on that property that don't even know there is a fence there.
I personally wouldn't pay to hunt deer, but that's me.
Paul
I personally wouldn't pay to hunt deer, but that's me.
Paul
04-24-2007, 03:00 PM
#19
Guest
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RE: Ethics Police - Question Time
ORIGINAL: retrieverman
And what is a lawyer going to tell someone who has not done his homework prior to paying $3000 for a hunt? Unless the ranch is backing out of the deal, the lawyer is worthless. (MY OPINION ONLY)
BTW What does this have to do with ethics?
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
I would find the first flight home and call my lawyer. Or North Texan in this case
Seriously, 3K I wouldn't do it.
I would find the first flight home and call my lawyer. Or North Texan in this case
Seriously, 3K I wouldn't do it.
BTW What does this have to do with ethics?
Actually, I didn't see the 18000 acre part. I doubt I would take a legal course of action with 18K acres. Probably would go ahead and hunt like everyone else.
04-24-2007, 03:04 PM
#20
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RE: Ethics Police - Question Time
ORIGINAL: AZBear
Let the buyer beware! It is your responsibility to research your hunt well in advance and to get all the information and call all the references to find out what you are about to drop a sizeable amount of money on. I would hunt. The ranch has 18K acres that is just over 28 square miles of land...hunt and next time do a little more pre-task planning.
Let the buyer beware! It is your responsibility to research your hunt well in advance and to get all the information and call all the references to find out what you are about to drop a sizeable amount of money on. I would hunt. The ranch has 18K acres that is just over 28 square miles of land...hunt and next time do a little more pre-task planning.
I have been on good hunts and just downright bad ones thru outfitters. Some of the best ones was noname folks without a fancy webpage. Some of the worst had big ole pictures and really talking the place up.