I'll believe he made the shot, I agree that it's idiotic for people to think that a guy has to have a glass to shoot good groups, or make good shots. It all depends on how well you shoot the rifle/scatter/pistol/revolver. I have a Marlin .22lr that has no sights at all (made for a scope), but I can group it to 2" at 75yrds, which is pretty impressive for any old, factory .22. I watched a cousin of mine, while we were drive hunting, scare up a buck, draw his .357 mag, and make a double lung & heart shot at 60yrds on a running buck.

Screw the 10 ring, keep them in the zero!!!

I just this past year got my first gun with a scope and the only reason I got it was because it came with it. My grandfather could strike matches with a 22 using iron sights and could shoot 22 short casings of a watermelon without marking the skin at a distance where even at the young age of 12 I could barely see the casing and I had excellent vision and he was in his 70's, he was a waterman on the Chesapeake bay and in the days when it was legal would shoot ducks on the water in the head when he was oystering.

There are advantages to iron sights and disadvantages, low light levels and long distances are some of the disadvantages, the advantages are the ability to be on target in a split second,in close, and on a moving target. How many times have you heard a guy with a scope say "The deer was in so close that when I put the scope on him all I could see was fur!", that is not a problem with iron sights.

I prefer my iron sights in most cases, but will admit at a distnace or in low light situation the scope has its place also.

The Tazman aka Martin Price
Founder and President of
Virginia Disabled Outdoorsmen Club

The problems people have with seeing only hair at close ranges is a problem with the shooter not the scope.Some people put scopes that are far too powerful on their hunting rifles and others carry their guns with the scopes on too high a power.I have lower powered scopes and carry them on the lowest setting and have no problems at all.If the target is far and I have time I turn up the power,at close ranges I am ready to go.As for the speed factor, studies by the military and other sources have proven that low powered scopes are quicker than open sights.The same goes for running shots which are much easier to make if you shoot with both eyes open no matter what type of sights you use.

My dad has killed 6 bucks with an 870 12 gauge pump shotgunt. It does not have a scope. He can hit a black dot at 120 yards thats no prblem for him. This gun has killed ohio bucks that score over 143. ANd he is the Ohio big buck club 3 times. SO it all depends if u want a scope or not. I use my encore 50 caliber muzzeloader with a scope during gun week. It jus depends on what u want.