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Old 11-14-2006 | 06:21 AM
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You really should give it up manuman, you're just digging a deeper hole for yourself. My original commentabout you was...

"Crossing the border and changing how his stand is hung as manuman did is really foolish not to mention arrogant and illegal."

... and your defense was that a game warden gave you the "okay" to do it.Now because you realize how foolish you've been you are trying to back track and say you didn't really cross the property line in the first place. An important little detail to leave out don't you think? Well, you must think we are allextremely gullable. Now your defense seems to be to be indignant and call me names. Well, you have lost all credibility sir, and I have nothing more to say to you.
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Old 11-14-2006 | 06:44 AM
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You really should give it up manuman, you're just digging a deeper hole for yourself. My original comment to you was...

"Crossing the border and changing how his stand is hung as manuman did is really foolish not to mention arrogant and illegal."

... and your defense was that a game warden gave you the "okay" to do it.Now because you realize how foolish you've been you are trying to back track and say you didn't really cross the property line in the first place. An important little detail to leave out don't you think? Well, you must think we are allextremely gullable. Now your defense seems to be to be indignant and call me names. Well, you have lost all credibility sir, and I have nothing more to say to you.
Sylvan, you are a piece of work. I am not backtracking on anything. You made some false assumptions and I spelled it out for you to show you just how wrong you were and all you can come up with is more self agrandizing justification of your poor detective work.Youmake my case for mewith the comment about details being left out---that is exactly the point---you made it necesarry to include clarified details that erase your false assumptions. It was you who assumed I trespassed!I never said I had to or did. I said that I got the okay to redirect his stand! What part of English do you not get? Comprehension obviously isn't your strong suit. You bet I'm indignant--you call me a liar, arrogant, foolish, and accuse me of breaking the law---all based on your self righteous, pompous, self assuming --and may I add again, completely wrong assumptions.How hypocritical to whine aboutname calling!You have nothing more to say, because you would have to admit your error, and your subsequent continued , stubborn refusal to accept reality. No wonder Hillary went to New York to get in office!
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Old 11-14-2006 | 07:00 AM
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NYbowhunter I dont think anyone said not to let him track a deer on the porperty in question the problem was him shooting across the property line. I suggested let him show you the Blood trail leading to your property so then you could let him track it if the bloodline started on the kids property HELL NO I WOULDNT LET HIM TRACK IT! cause it wasnt his to shoot anyways
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Old 11-14-2006 | 07:13 AM
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most you can do is talk to him...if that dosnt work just dont let him track his deer on your property....
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Old 11-14-2006 | 07:16 AM
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Ok well atleast i didnt say it LOL
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Old 11-14-2006 | 07:23 AM
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most you can do is talk to him...if that dosnt work just dont let him track his deer on your property....
I don't see how much more difficult it needs to be than this.
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Old 11-14-2006 | 07:31 AM
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LOL I wasn't refering to your post.

If it indicates he shot across the property line than it's your right to not let him on your property. I dont' have a problem with that. Personally I wouldnt' get too worked up about it, we have good relations with our neighbors fortunately. If there was a 150" buck 50 yards from me I would like to be allowed the opportunity to take him if he's on the other side. That's the arrangement we have with our neighbors. We dont' have stands on eachothers property, but by all means if there's a deer you want to take and he happens to be just on the other side (and I'm not zeroed in on it [8D]) .... have at it. But I can see how some circumstances you wouldn't want others shooting across the line. Depends on the situation I suppose.
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Old 11-14-2006 | 07:44 AM
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O.K. even though I said I was done talking to you, that last line of bs just has to have a response...

You bet I'm indignant--you call me a liar, arrogant, foolish, and accuse me of breaking the law---all based on your self righteous, pompous, self assuming
No sir, based on your own words...
You said the stand was "located very similar to the one described here". Well the stand described here was "a ladder stand on the other side of the fence not 10 feet from my grandpaws property facing my grandpaws property". So in other words clearly on another property which EVERYBODY recognized and discussed. Not "similar" at all to how you later described it.
Then when I said that you had crossed the border and moved the stand you didn't take the obvious tack and correct me and say that you didn't cross the border but you defended what you did by saying a warden gave you the "okay" to do "it".
It was you who assumed I trespassed! I never said I had to or did.
Your words clearly indicated that you did tresspass and you made no attempt whatsoever to correct that impression when it was pointed out. Something that would have been very easy to do and would have immediately stopped any further criticizm.
No sir, you dug the hole for yourself and your song and dance after the fact will only convince the gullable. But if it makes you feel better about yourself by all means keep it up! At least your twisting and squirming is entertaining.
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Old 11-14-2006 | 07:59 AM
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I suggest you talk to him. Maybe he has bad intentions . . . maybe he doesn't. You won't know unless you talk to him. He may lie to you, but if nothing else talking with him will put him on notice that (1) you care, (2) you know what his face looks like and maybe (ask about this) who he is and where he lives, and (3) get it clear what the expectations are.

Maybe he thinks the deer are moving from your grandpa's property onto his property and wants to shoot them as they cross? I don't know if this is a plausible story, not being familiar with the lay of the land.

Talk to the guy next time. If he is a jerk when you talk to him, that would be a good grounds for trying to do something else to thwart his plans -- maybe the Irish Spring on the fenceline?

Maybe the guy is a poacher and the adjoining landowner would appreciate some identification of the guy. Get the guy's license plate number and a good physical description.
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Old 11-14-2006 | 08:53 AM
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Well,

I'm really going to piss some folks off. I'm a landowner so I speak from experience. You have no right to say or do anything kid. Not only that your thinking is totally wrong.

First its not you land its your grandpa's. Its not your place to say or do anything, its his. Secondly, you don't own the deer. and you can't look at the money you've spent as an investment. Deer roam (unless they are in high fence). Deer jump fence lines. You can plant your grandpa's whole farm up in Mossy Oak Biologic and it doesn't make that 200 inch buck that feeds there anymore yours than the man in the moon.

Whatever happened to being neighborly. Heck, at my farm we had gentlemanly agreements with all of our neighbors about hunting. We agree that if we saw a deer on the other side of a fence we could shoot it. Also, if a turkey we were calling was across the fence we could cross it to get the kill. During small game season we would swing by each other house and ask if it was all right to hunt a certain patch out. The answer was inevitably yes.

Then some @$$hole bought 80 acres bordering me. Now this jerk thought that his 80 acres was off limits and no one should even look across his fence. Your talking about 80 acres bordering folks with 1000+ on all sides. Hell, he spent more time running fences during season than hunting. He'd here a shot and take off towards it to make sure that it wasn't on him. A class a jerk!

I bordered him on two sides of his 80. I have a terrific stand on the corner. its aprox. 20 yards from his fence. Its the perfect "pinch" between fields and large white oaks. I've hunted that stand for years prior to him showing up. I showed up to my stand opening morning a few years ago to find my steps pulled out of the tree and what appeared to be Tide poured on the platform. Now thats downright dirty. I was super pissed. If I would have met up with him that day I probably would have spent the night in the pokey for assault.

But, alas he had a heart attack from all his worrying and the world is a better place now. What I'm saying is get along with your neighbors and chill out a little. The guy isn't going to hurt anything. So what if he kills a super buck right there. You may get a nicer one the next day. Live and let live. So what if he shoots the thing ten yards on your side of the fence. What if you saw a huge buck on his side of the fence? Would you honestly pass up a Boone & Crocket buck because it was 30 feet past your boundary? Or would you shoot it hoping it jumped the fence or that you could drag it to your side before someone else found you? I think I already know the answer.
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