SHOULD THE HUNTER TIP A GUIDE?
09-26-2005, 11:20 AM
#32
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
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RE: SHOULD THE HUNTER TIP A GUIDE?
As I stated on my original post,I understand your outlook on this.But wishing some thing were different doesn't make it so.Anyone who is in business gives their best efforts and service to those that provide them with the greatest financial rewards.Thats how they survive and thrive.I certainly hope that courtesy and decency and sincerity still matter.If you have a not so great trip and don't intend to go back then don't tip.
If you are going back to the outfitter where you shot that beautiful buck we have seen so much of,you may want to consider tipping.
It really comes down to supply and demand,If an outfitter can book solid year after year with repeat hunters who are generous,why would they need or want to book again with a non tipper?There are so many othe relements that should be taken in to consideration,did you have a good attitude,did you pitch in with chores or other things to help out,that may be enough for the outfitter to recognize your a decent guy.But if you came in to camp wreaking of money with either your stories or the equipment you have and they work their butt off to give you a great hunt and then you don't tip,how do you think they will feel about your coming back?This is all really logical stuff.
Good luck to you! I hope where ever you go you have a great hunt!
If you are going back to the outfitter where you shot that beautiful buck we have seen so much of,you may want to consider tipping.
It really comes down to supply and demand,If an outfitter can book solid year after year with repeat hunters who are generous,why would they need or want to book again with a non tipper?There are so many othe relements that should be taken in to consideration,did you have a good attitude,did you pitch in with chores or other things to help out,that may be enough for the outfitter to recognize your a decent guy.But if you came in to camp wreaking of money with either your stories or the equipment you have and they work their butt off to give you a great hunt and then you don't tip,how do you think they will feel about your coming back?This is all really logical stuff.
Good luck to you! I hope where ever you go you have a great hunt!
09-26-2005, 01:07 PM
#33
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,358
RE: SHOULD THE HUNTER TIP A GUIDE?
It's not all the same concept really, different hunts means different levels of effort by the guide. If a guide is with me all day, using his knowledge and experience working the elk call, the lay of the land, setting me up and calling in bulls for me, this is different than a guide who puts me in his truck, drives me to a stand, hands me a radio and leaves.
One is lots of full time effort, the other is a taxi driver.
Do each deserve a tip? That's your call, but it is like the buffet analogy, a waitress came to your table and took your order and said "buffet is over there". Both get tips, one worked more and did more and was responsible for more and deserves more.
One is lots of full time effort, the other is a taxi driver.
Do each deserve a tip? That's your call, but it is like the buffet analogy, a waitress came to your table and took your order and said "buffet is over there". Both get tips, one worked more and did more and was responsible for more and deserves more.
09-26-2005, 01:22 PM
#34
RE: SHOULD THE HUNTER TIP A GUIDE?
[quote]ORIGINAL: Bob H in NH
It's not all the same concept really, different hunts means different levels of effort by the guide. If a guide is with me all day, using his knowledge and experience working the elk call, the lay of the land, setting me up and calling in bulls for me, this is different than a guide who puts me in his truck, drives me to a stand, hands me a radio and leaves.
wow thank you Bob ...I think you undertsnad what I am trying to get across ... some on here (Jimmy Vee ) thinkthat I am trying to cheat the guide and I think I have made myself clear I think he deserves to make a fair living and a fair wage .... TSOC thank you for your input as well ... I respect your opinion ...
DD
It's not all the same concept really, different hunts means different levels of effort by the guide. If a guide is with me all day, using his knowledge and experience working the elk call, the lay of the land, setting me up and calling in bulls for me, this is different than a guide who puts me in his truck, drives me to a stand, hands me a radio and leaves.
wow thank you Bob ...I think you undertsnad what I am trying to get across ... some on here (Jimmy Vee ) thinkthat I am trying to cheat the guide and I think I have made myself clear I think he deserves to make a fair living and a fair wage .... TSOC thank you for your input as well ... I respect your opinion ...
DD
09-26-2005, 02:22 PM
#37
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jul 2004
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RE: SHOULD THE HUNTER TIP A GUIDE?
DD:
My opinion is you don't tip in the circumstance you are talking about. To repeat -- you have paid for a high dollar outfitted hunt and the guide's role comes down to driving you to the blind, picking you up from the blind, skinning your kill, and caping your trophy. This is not the case of the guide who is working 19 hours per day 7 days per week (hard to believe anyone can work 19 hours per day 7 days per week for the duration of a hunting season). Now the guide might be working . . . but he isn't working for the hunter during the day. In this circumstance the outfitter needs to pay the "guide" enough to make it worth his while to do the work -- whatever it is.
If the hunt involved the guide spending daylight hunting hours with me and perhaps one other hunter scambling around the mountains to find a good animal, that is another story. In that case I might well be inclined to tip.
My opinion is you don't tip in the circumstance you are talking about. To repeat -- you have paid for a high dollar outfitted hunt and the guide's role comes down to driving you to the blind, picking you up from the blind, skinning your kill, and caping your trophy. This is not the case of the guide who is working 19 hours per day 7 days per week (hard to believe anyone can work 19 hours per day 7 days per week for the duration of a hunting season). Now the guide might be working . . . but he isn't working for the hunter during the day. In this circumstance the outfitter needs to pay the "guide" enough to make it worth his while to do the work -- whatever it is.
If the hunt involved the guide spending daylight hunting hours with me and perhaps one other hunter scambling around the mountains to find a good animal, that is another story. In that case I might well be inclined to tip.
09-26-2005, 03:17 PM
#38
RE: SHOULD THE HUNTER TIP A GUIDE?
[quote]ORIGINAL: tsoc
As I stated on my original post,I understand your outlook on this.But wishing some thing were different doesn't make it so.Anyone who is in business gives their best efforts and service to those that provide them with the greatest financial rewards.Thats how they survive and thrive.I certainly hope that courtesy and decency and sincerity still matter.If you have a not so great trip and don't intend to go back then don't tip.
If you are going back to the outfitter where you shot that beautiful buck we have seen so much of,you may want to consider tipping.
WHY TSOCWHAT NICE BUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??
DD
As I stated on my original post,I understand your outlook on this.But wishing some thing were different doesn't make it so.Anyone who is in business gives their best efforts and service to those that provide them with the greatest financial rewards.Thats how they survive and thrive.I certainly hope that courtesy and decency and sincerity still matter.If you have a not so great trip and don't intend to go back then don't tip.
If you are going back to the outfitter where you shot that beautiful buck we have seen so much of,you may want to consider tipping.
WHY TSOCWHAT NICE BUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??
DD
09-26-2005, 08:04 PM
#40
RE: SHOULD THE HUNTER TIP A GUIDE?
THANK YOU MY FRIEND ... THAT IS A LIFE LONG DREAM ..TOOK ME 25 YEARS TO FINALLY HAVE THE STARS LINE UP JUST RIGHT .. I AM VERY PROUD AND THANK THE GOOD LORD EVERYTIME I LOOK AT THAT MOUNT... I WOULD POST ANOTHER PICTURE OF IT HERE BUT HUMILITY WON'T ALLOW IT ;>
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