Need some help
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Idaho,Stationed in Ludington,Mi
Hey fellas,
Being from Idaho I have been blessed with some great elk hunting! But now I am stationed on Washington's Olympic Peninsula.. Last year I beat the hell out of the brush chasing those darn Rosevelt elk. And with no luck I actually got frustrated!!! Can I get any pointer's to help me out? Please!! What has worked for you?
I need your help!!
Being from Idaho I have been blessed with some great elk hunting! But now I am stationed on Washington's Olympic Peninsula.. Last year I beat the hell out of the brush chasing those darn Rosevelt elk. And with no luck I actually got frustrated!!! Can I get any pointer's to help me out? Please!! What has worked for you?
I need your help!!
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Typical Buck
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From: McCall Idaho USA
I posted this in the big-game forum!! Give it a try. Just be patient!!!
There are many methods & strategies one can use in "early season". we've taken bulls in the first week of the season just about every year. From bugling them in, to getting between a bull & his cows purposely and hitting him with a lip bawl type scream. Too, Call & Stalk with two is one of our all time favorites. Bulls are very cooperative even early on to answer your non-threatning bugles or selective cow calls at a distance, giving the shooter time to move in on a vocal bull while the caller stays put, plus it's very intense and exciting!!
But our #1 methods of use are "BLIND SETUPS" We incorporate these around active wallows, between feeding & bedding areas, early or late in the day. Also, we setup in areas close to bedding areas, (we never hunt them in their bedroom) aprox. 300 to 500yds out. We do this because if you bump them out of bedding areas they leave & don't return for days, even weeks sometimes. Stay out of bedding areas & you can hunt those same elk daily if you choose, if they bump, don't run them down and out of the country!!
In blind setups we use a senario of cow calls, 3-4 different sounds, we start slow & build excitement within a couple minutes. We also inject a pre-estrous whine from a single cow and a random spike to raggie squeal with excitement. -- Another form is to use to mature cows battling it out for lead cow position, you also want to throw in a raggie squeal with excited type sounds as well, in all setups make natural elk noises like they're milling around by snapping twigs branches and kicking up dirt, you know imitating a scuffle or just being elk, don't be quiet!!! These setups work awesomely, but you must have patience!!! Be willing to tough it out up to an hour waiting for elk to appear, in most cases they just show up silently to check out the commotion or see who these elk are?
When using this around wallows add in a little splashing to the senario, it usually will bring them your way sooner or later. Heck, I've had bulls start screaming when only splashing the wallow with no calling at all. Too, if you find an active wallow be willing to put in your time and usually a bull will show up with in a day or two. Be sure to do light calling in addition to the splashing to give bedded elk a direction that there are elk in his wallow. Even if he's not aggressive he will mosey over your way sooner or later that day to smell & checkout who the elk were that were there. Again, be patient & willing to sit it out. Stop all calling after your short 5-6min calling method around the wallow, you want other elk to think you left, be very alert at all times. A treestand would work best, but a ground blind can work too. Watch the wind!!!!!!
Last year alone I called in 11 bulls in the first 4 days of the season with blind setups, all came in silent, they're that effective!!! I know ElkCrazy8 uses these as well and is very successfull!!!!-------------------------------Good Luck-ElkNut1
There are many methods & strategies one can use in "early season". we've taken bulls in the first week of the season just about every year. From bugling them in, to getting between a bull & his cows purposely and hitting him with a lip bawl type scream. Too, Call & Stalk with two is one of our all time favorites. Bulls are very cooperative even early on to answer your non-threatning bugles or selective cow calls at a distance, giving the shooter time to move in on a vocal bull while the caller stays put, plus it's very intense and exciting!!
But our #1 methods of use are "BLIND SETUPS" We incorporate these around active wallows, between feeding & bedding areas, early or late in the day. Also, we setup in areas close to bedding areas, (we never hunt them in their bedroom) aprox. 300 to 500yds out. We do this because if you bump them out of bedding areas they leave & don't return for days, even weeks sometimes. Stay out of bedding areas & you can hunt those same elk daily if you choose, if they bump, don't run them down and out of the country!!
In blind setups we use a senario of cow calls, 3-4 different sounds, we start slow & build excitement within a couple minutes. We also inject a pre-estrous whine from a single cow and a random spike to raggie squeal with excitement. -- Another form is to use to mature cows battling it out for lead cow position, you also want to throw in a raggie squeal with excited type sounds as well, in all setups make natural elk noises like they're milling around by snapping twigs branches and kicking up dirt, you know imitating a scuffle or just being elk, don't be quiet!!! These setups work awesomely, but you must have patience!!! Be willing to tough it out up to an hour waiting for elk to appear, in most cases they just show up silently to check out the commotion or see who these elk are?
When using this around wallows add in a little splashing to the senario, it usually will bring them your way sooner or later. Heck, I've had bulls start screaming when only splashing the wallow with no calling at all. Too, if you find an active wallow be willing to put in your time and usually a bull will show up with in a day or two. Be sure to do light calling in addition to the splashing to give bedded elk a direction that there are elk in his wallow. Even if he's not aggressive he will mosey over your way sooner or later that day to smell & checkout who the elk were that were there. Again, be patient & willing to sit it out. Stop all calling after your short 5-6min calling method around the wallow, you want other elk to think you left, be very alert at all times. A treestand would work best, but a ground blind can work too. Watch the wind!!!!!!
Last year alone I called in 11 bulls in the first 4 days of the season with blind setups, all came in silent, they're that effective!!! I know ElkCrazy8 uses these as well and is very successfull!!!!-------------------------------Good Luck-ElkNut1
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From: Idaho,Stationed in Ludington,Mi
Well that is great advice! I use some of the very same strategies back in Idaho. I actually hunt really close to wear you are from!! And it has paid off.. I have five bulls under my belt back in Idaho, But I am tellen you these Rosevelt Elk are a whole new breed.. The same strategies that I used in Idaho are useless out here!! Thanks for your input though!!!!
Idaho Boys rule!!!!!!!!!1
Idaho Boys rule!!!!!!!!!1
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From: McCall Idaho USA
Mulie---Those methods have proved to work well on Rosies!! I know of several good bulls taken with the exact techniques I suggested. You must be where elk are!! If they can't hear you it will not do any good. Keep moving around & setting-up till it works out.
If real pressured elk, don't overcall!! But you must let them know you're there.
Come Sept. they can't help but come check out a possible hot cow being annoyed by an immature bull. It may mean you have to stay where the elk are right till the last of daylight!! Or being where they should be an hour before daylight so you can do a lot of listening in trying to locate a group of them.-----------------------------ElkNut1
If real pressured elk, don't overcall!! But you must let them know you're there.
Come Sept. they can't help but come check out a possible hot cow being annoyed by an immature bull. It may mean you have to stay where the elk are right till the last of daylight!! Or being where they should be an hour before daylight so you can do a lot of listening in trying to locate a group of them.-----------------------------ElkNut1
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i know just what your talkin about i live in western oregon and have the same trouble i just wathed elk country journal and they were hunting around where i hunt and the guides were saying you need to call and call louder and alot more then you would like in idaho and hunt the clearcut areas or the 2 to 3 year old replanted areas. they were bow hunting and they never took one on film. hope it helps the both of us this year.
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From: Idaho,Stationed in Ludington,Mi
Ya I saw that episode! They seemed to do the same types of things that I have been doing. I guess patience will prevail! I will keep at it! Found a area a couple of days ago that had elk sign everywhere!! So we will see what happens. Thanks for the input!



